I didn’t find the grind to go from a C170 to a Skymaster to the C310R all that horrible.
Of course, taking on a loan(s) is pretty much necessary if you want to move the process more quickly.
Also, I love GA and smallish aircraft, so I’m in zero hurry to be flying a large airliner.
NeoFly has been captivating my attention all week in 2020 after an extended break from it.
I really want to see how they improve/evolve Career Mode.
I think lack of aircraft variety (and again, all the dang bugs in the ones we do have) and the ability to select our own aircraft for the missions is a big drag on career mode right now.
Part of the attraction when I used to use FSE was figuring out the most appropriate aircraft for a mission. Give me the airport pair and the payload and let me decide which aircraft is best suited (including the effect of terrain, weather, etc).
There were giant spreadsheets devoted to figuring out the economics of it all. Right now we’re very locked-in and that doesn’t help.
Ah yes, loans are a great addition to the career too!
I think that NeoFly combined with the more visual and functional additions in the career mode of MSFS2024 will be very very cool.
Would also be nice if they just remove the cut scenes and let them take place in the world while you are in walking mode or already in the cockpit. Adds more to the immersion from my pov.
Climbing the ladder analogy makes sense. But it breaks apart the moment you realise you are already on top of the ladder just by choosing free flight. There is no ranking to even compare if you are high/low on the ladder compared to other players.
Then don’t fly career-mode.
You are unbelievable.
First, you all hear about career mode and each and every one of you went ballistic. “Ow, so cool, career mode”.
Do you have any idea, what real pilots go through to even get to that left seat in a Boeing or Airbus? It’s a grind. It’s boring. But you need the hours.
And it becomes more challenging and now you all hate it…
I LOVE IT. And i’m good at it too.
Agree. All i wanted was FSX style handcrafted missions. They were interesting, detailed & care had been taken on them. It also had way more variety.
Why do i want to fly random AI routes, done badly & a hundred times when we could’ve had 30-40 far more enjoyable & varied missions designed to show off the absolute best parts & places of them sim which would’ve had a much bigger replay value.
It’s a mode intended to last and stay with you for a long time. Stop grinding.
I’ve seen this argument about “Do you know what REAL pilots go through”. I’m not a real pilot, I never will have it as a career, I might do some odd hours IRL but I didn’t buy MSFS2024 (or 2020 or FSX or any of those others going back to the 1980’s) to experience the day to day grind of a real flying career. I want to have the good part, I only have maybe 4-5 hours over the whole week to ‘play’.
I was hoping to be able to forge a ‘career’ doing flights from airports that I wanted (based on quality scenery I’ve purchased) in quality planes (based on planes that I’ve purchased). The current career is a prescriptive grind, with poor quality planes flying in and out of repetitive small airfields of low quality, with so many bugs that can simply wipe out any progress you make in an instant.
I like flying in a ‘real’ way, light & mid corporate jets and I take almost as much time planning my flight as executing it. I use SimRate to make that 3 hour flight fit in to 1.5 to 2 hours to fit my real life and well career modejust isn’t cutting it for me. I’ve put probably 30 hours into it so far (using SimRate in some sections of the cruise) and am level 80 something, but I think I’m done with this incarnation of the career mode and I’ll be going back to my HondaJet between my paid airports using BeyondATC. YMMV and I wish you well in how you choose to play in the sim.
I do think being stuck in the C172 for so long at the beginning can get boring. Do I think career mode itself is boring? Nah not really. The AI voices aren’t the greatest, but a lot of career mode is just about flying planes you probably wouldn’t normally fly, to airports you probably wouldn’t think of going to.
They should let you choose from 5 planes at the beginning for instance, but they’re all the same class of planes as the C172. It’s something like how Neofly does it.
If Asobo gives developers normal access to the SDK, I’m sure. that having such a good database, third-party developers will be able to make a very good career application.
I am a beta tester of one of these applications. I really want to add a lot to it…
Other than the bugs, I think the lack of aircraft variety is one of the main problems, with premium deluxe we have 90 aircraft, plus FF/LL aircraft, but only a small handful of these are actually useable in career.
Oh and not really being able to use third party airports without yet more bugs!
I fear this is why they are not putting missions outside of career mode and doing exactly as you suggest. Did you see they actually increased the price of some planes. Every single patch has been moving career in one direction. I fear they want to sell credits and other things on the store. They already are encrypting planes for the sole reason of controlling modded planes in career. The entire design reeks of selling you the solution later.
If this is the case, we will never see these things in an API for 3rd party devs. Quite frankly, we might not even if they aren’t going to do that. It would take 3rd party devs almost no time at all to come up with a career mode better than this one using the missions if they were made available. I don’t think there is any shot they want to compete with that.
As for others, this entire “real life” argument is silly. Every job simulator ever tries to remove the tedium of real life, while keeping some of the fun elements and giving you the experience. It’s a balance of all things to keep it fun and entertaining. Going full hard into real life is not going to resort in a good game experience. This works in a simulation, like a flight simulation, because that is the entire point. I don’t think MSFS is literal airline pilot simulation the way the flight simulation is. I think using real life to dismiss people’s arguments is silly. If you want to continually use real life as an argument, then when you crash you should wait 18 years before you can fly again, or have your license revoked, or any number of ridiculous things that don’t translate well to a video game.
I’ve actually had what turned out to be a quite enjoyable evening in Helicopters in Career Mode.
Although I have spent several hours, doing enough missions to open up the rotorcraft search and rescue missions, to prove my wife’s assessment of my finding skills. Suffice it to say that assessment is not overly positive. It’s just as well the sim puts up bright orange smoke, probably out of pity, or I’d never have found the misplaced hiking woman. 
I still thoroughly enjoyed the session though and will be back for more tomorrow evening. 
Grinding ??
If u do not want grind : take a plane of you liking / free flight / some imagination
They must have decided to make 2024 after having 10 pints of beer 2020 is running way better and addons are great after 5 years maybe launch 2024 then lol
For me I skip as much as I can to make it go faster so I can get to more mission types and hopefully get enough credits to do multi engine , airline and cargo. I’m tired of the GA planes.
Also, I see Companies is locked. I have no interest starting one. I hope it’s not a necessary thing. I’m finally doing and accepting the careeer mode part begrudgingly.
How is one supposed to earn 250k credits to get to heavy airliner transport. That’s nuts. Gonna take ages unless the increments of earning drastically goes up from 2k credits per mission
This. It’s an entertainment. If it becomes so onerous that a screw up will crash my plane and break my fun, then I just won’t do it. And we are totally still in a period where the sim will crash a plane taxiing across a field, cutting out in flight or have a mission end in an unsuitable Farmers’ field.
I haven’t bought a Company yet because I’m de-risking the process. I want all certifications completed and enough money to buy an additional aircraft first. Then I’ll be checking arrival airports in Free Flight first to make sure I’m not being sent to Courchevel. 
but screw-ups happen IRL and people typically end up dead in about half of those situations. I for one am glad i can crash the same plane multiple times through no fault of mine without consequence…