$40 for a plane!?

Right now, it’s all about first mover advantage and money grabbing.

Also, as long as the the whole program is as broken as it is, I will certainly not buy content. Especially not from a store that is likely as broken as the rest of the program.

It is a public beta after all, even if it’s not labeled as such. I will give it a few months time. By then, I will be able to judge what direction Asobo and MS are taking with this program.

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same goes for DCS World. Some modules are 79$

Thats fine because single planes are own simulations on its own. See the systems and flight behavior.

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Find a cheaper hobby…the world doesn’t revolve around your perception of pricing

Not defending them at all, but they do make good products and because of that, I am willing to pay a reasonable amount of money for an addon aircraft. Especially when nearly every function and system is replicated to the point that one could use the actual flight manuals and checklists. Of course, everyone is going have differing opinions about what the definition of the word reasonable is, and that’s fine. That being said, you can’t expect a company to spend thousands upon thousands of hours developing a product, to only give it away for peanuts to a niche market. It isn’t going to happen.

Also, if you think $100-$200 is abuse, you’d have a heart attack if you saw how much A2A charges for a commercial copy of their C182 for P3D :slight_smile:. Any hobby is expensive… It all depends how far you are willing to go.

/sarcasm
Flightsim add-on makers are not allowed to make profit. Only Epic with their Fortnite are allowed to take in millions with their microtransactions for skins and dances!

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Say it again for the cheapskates in the back please!

No, please. The day when msfs is F2P and we get charged by mile of flight is when we all take up pitchforks.

But nobody is suggesting that - thank god.

I have nothing against the likes of A2A and PMDG making a profit and having a hell of a Christmas. They have slugged and worked their nails off to bring something unparalleled to us as simmers. Each in their own right have brought something groundbreaking on initial release and have improved since. But as they say, thanks butters no parsnips, hence I am more than happy to show my appreciation for work they put in with my money.

To not irk even more people to take cheap personal shots at me - I do not have the numbers but it doesn’t have to be space grade maths to think that in p3d there wasn’t a huge market for the likes of pmdg. Yeah, it has come to having to cover ones back for attacks in these forums.

Do we, even devout fans, who will pay reasonable prices for reasonable products hope the prices will go down? Yes. Because the market might hopefully be bigger - but we don’t know what state we will be in by the end of the year. Even with some third parties having early access, the SDK is not there yet to have allowed for release day publishing.

I’d love to hear from someone who disagrees with the PMDG pricing model:

How many hours you think goes in to developing one of their planes?

What you think their margins are on the planes?

EDIT: @TropicoE, I didn’t mean to directly respond to you. I hit the wrong reply button.

Don’t get me wrong, I am not arguing with you. You are not my enemy, no one here is my enemy and none here is worth my energy to be their enemy. The price thing is just an old discussion on the FS community… Again I think there are LOTs of thing to consider before going the easy road of saying “they have the right to say the price”. Even though that is true, I think that way of reasoning needs a bit more of thinking. There are always variables on the equation. But again, I will always be on the side of the consumer, always. I could consider it if you or anyone come to me with real numbers, because that is the only way of defending a company from those prices, that is all. I asked for the numbers because that is the easiest way of terminating the discussion, as you mentioned I do not have the numbers neither. So in that scenery, I put myself on the side of the consumer. I think it is fair for me and for the community. We already spend a lot of money on the game, base price + planes + addons, etc. Well, sorry if I make you think you are my enemy or I am discussing in the wrong way, I am just trying to use reasoning, that y why I said for example I am not wrong neither you, it is in the same line of You don’t have the numbers neither I. Just reasoning about the thing and a bit of knowing how this community thinks, for example “we are just a tiny community” is another idea we have as a community, we don’t know really. Cheers mate

DCS modules have sales. I haven’t bought any module at 79$ price, yet I have most of them.
I got the Hornet for 34,31 EUR - that is the usual price for DCS modules for me.
No way I’ll drop 140$ for the next “latest-and-greatest” PMDG NG.
Other good simulations have much more realistic price points - Majestic, TFDi, Toliss, FlyJSim. They cater for the same market segment.

PMDG and A2A increased pricing for P3D had the argument that LM’s P3D is not entertainment software, hence the higher price compared to FSX for the same product.
Well, MSFS is entertainment software, and the reverse argument should be applied in that case.

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Well if I remember correctly, PMDG has promised to offer, for those who bought the NGXu P3D version before December 2019 (if I remember correctly. The date may be off, but the offer is legit), the full $99 they paid for the NGXu, meaning if you bought it before the deadline they gave, then you’d get a $99 discount for the MSFS version whenever it would be released. So if it’s $130, that’s gonna be $31 for those who bought it within the deadline, whenever that was. I missed that deadline, I remember it well.

Thank you confirming that your statement has not factual basis and is only an opinion you wish to have. I am glad that you now accept that your opinion does not need to be accepted by others and that I and other forum members are entitled to differing ones. Does I mean you will never again accuse me of being cancerous in a post if I disagree with you?

I totally agree with your appreciation since in my case and through the passage through FSX since its inception, Prepard 3D, X-Plane and now MFS 2020. I can not even imagine the amount of money I have spent for the hobby of all my lifetime. I already have the B737, B787, A320 programmed as a need to purchase and I hope that a TBM930 goes on sale, but that it has a fully functional Garmin.
My thanks to PMDG and Aerosoft’s Airbus, but especially to the A320 Ultimate which, together with the Xlane G1000, I think will be very difficult to beat.
Regards.

some day in the future, there will be SALES!

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PMDG - hold my beer

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Yeah. in X-Plane recently some super-super-deluxe profi addons have reached up to 140$. With the higher cost to develop for MSFS and the unprecedented super-super fidelity of the simulated systems, who wants to bet that we see 200$?

Besides, if this was only about the cost, why isn’t everyone sticking to the Zibo?

At least in DCS I can wait for steam sales. Hopefully there will be sales in the marketplace from time to time.

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You think that is steep!!! Wait for the PMDG 737, it will be around $129 US!!!

I’m with you. I’m surprised they don’t cost more though tbh. Flight simulation is a niche. Aircraft add-ons are a niche within the niche. And high-end PMDG level add-ons are a niche, within a niche, within the niche :money_with_wings:

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