It’s really too expensive. Three flights with a PC-24 or CJ4 spoil the engines and it costs more than 1 millon. I don’t think it’s balanced. A CJ4 produces more or less 100K per hour in passive income, but after 10 hours you have to change it’s engines or the electric systems for a total cost of more than 1 million.
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That whole situation just irritates me to no end. After grinding for eight hours and seeing that 10M passive income flash up, the measly 2M profit after all the deductions feels like a complete waste of my precious flying time – time I could have spent actually in the air! Those maintenance and wear and tear costs absolutely need to be slashed; they’re making the whole thing pointless.
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For sure they do. Even on the 737 it’s a joke I work on 737 daily and I can 100% apart from tyre changes and topping oil up we don’t replace landing gears every 20 hours !!
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My virtual mechanic must be living the high life on my dime. I swear, half my income goes directly to keeping these metal birds vaguely airworthy. At this rate, I’ll be lucky if I can afford a paper airplane upgrade by next year. Lowering the repair costs would be a real game-changer, allowing my profits to actually, you know, profit instead of just funding someone’s virtual yacht 
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Is it just me or is the payouts just a waste of time ?
They might aswell reduce the payouts and repair costs
I bought a brand new 737 max that already had worn engines ? Repaired everything again to new and after 6 flights I now need to spend 41m on engine repairs ( turbines ) and 21m on flight controls !!
I work for a huge airline in the uk and I can tell you now we don’t spend 41m keeping a 737 in the air, engines last years
This is actuality making the career really boring now as I’m doing 3 hour flights for 7m and probably coming away with 10 quid profit due to the repairs.
It works out every flight is costing me around 5m in repairs at the moment
How does a starter motor need changed every 2 flights ?
Safe to say I’m now putting this career mode to the side until it’s actually fully sorted as at this rate I won’t be to upgrade to any new aircraft as the 737 Will use all my money if I sold it now I’d only have around 8m more then I did 20 18 hours flight time ago.
Please. Please please make some changes surely this can be done with a hot fix !!
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I 100 % agree with you. I have been begging for this to be looked at especially for the CJ4 which has gone up in price by 5 fold as have the maintenance costs. Even in the CJ4, the repairs are leaking credits faster than they can be earned. Esp the engines and airframes. How can it cost 7,000,000 cr to replace an airframe to new after only a few flights. This does not happen in reality.
Also, I believe in the real world of aviation, I do not think a 737 costs as much as it does in credits - 99,000,000 - crazy. We have been asking and asking for a fairer formula with respect to maintenance since the sim has started. Many real world pilots are saying exactly the same thing.
Secondly, even if an engine goes in for a service, you do not replace the entire engine, only the parts that have worn. Ditto the landing gear, the flight surfaces, the oil and petrol tanks are not replaced this often either. And so on.
If one sends one’s car in for a routine service after so many years you do not buy a whole new body or a new engine. I am hoping someone from MS/Asobo reads this and starts to inject some common sense into this game and maintenance issues.
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Its just so unrealistic like lower the earnings by all means as what you earn on a real flight won’t be 7/10m it’s probably not even 100k, yes it’ll take a long time to buy new aircraft but isn’t that what owning a airliner is about ? Maybe introduce leasing of aircraft like real word ? Discounts if you buy x amount ? Pay monthly stuff because at this moment in time it’s basically free flight mode with a 10 minutes of extras that don’t give you any enjoyment
A 737 max does cost around 99m dollars in real life but company’s get huge discounts for ordering more , for instance my company have ordered I belive 149 new a321 neos going from 737s
A new a321 range from 125m to 140m plus depending on many things, total cost for my company is around just shy of 13bn I belive and that works out around 87m per aircraft. So yes aircraft do cost that much but can be discounted quite a lot if a huge order is placed.
Let’s just hope we see some progression soon as there’s no night flights in career from what I’ve seen ( passenger ) live weather is shot although today I did have thunder when there was real thundering at the location I flew too, time of day all missions should also be live time like if you were to fly from a airport the time should be the real time not a few hours behind or in advance
They just need to make it a career mode and not a unrealistic mode where you can earn 30m off a 7 hour flight, me personally would much prefer a career where you can build a airline or business of some sort like we kind of already have but can actually hire staff, have costs like cabin crew etc taxes not a new 200k starting motor every 2/3 flights or new slats every 5 flights
Rant over
If you explain it like that, then yeah I can see why they have loaded the maintenance costs. Personally, I prefer not to have to only earn a couple of 100k all the way up to 99,000,000 per mission. OMG that would take forever. Anyway, when the heavies come next month with SU3 they will be over 2-300,000,000 Cr. Imagine what their maintenance costs are.
I know Career mode has a plan for development over time but there are so many current build issues that they want to resolve these first. They may indeed institute some of your suggestions but I would feel sorry for those who begin in this to have to grind for little reward all the way to a 737 max.
Yeah I get that but at the moment your only probably waning a few m per flight with the 738 realistically obviously it’s better than 100k but my last 2 flights of 16 million has been wiped out and I still need 41m so my next 7/8 flights are going to be wiped out too as some repairs are like 8/9m a pop so not like you can spend 500k each flight to make them new again.
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I did a little research, and according to several websites, a Boeing 737 typically costs around £200,000 every six months for a thorough service to ensure everything is functioning perfectly. One source indicated that a comprehensive check, performed every ten to fifteen years, can cost approximately £1.5 million. Therefore, the idea of a £600,000 service every 24 hours is unrealistic and clearly a joke.
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A “service all” button for planes would be a total game-changer, especially for players with large amount of planes. It’s crazy to think some folks are spending two hours just dealing with repairs and servicing individual aircraft. That’s time that could be spent actually flying, which is what the game is all about!
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A service all would be probably difficult to do - as the name implies it would “service all”. EG Many of the landing gear maintenance issues only need a tire changed or pumped - they would need to 100% build in a recognition factor that when a component reaches a certain % of wear that is only when it can maintain.
I agree with the general principle that would make life so much easier. We have to be careful what we ask for though as MS/Asobo have a habit of punishing us “financially” (Cr) and this might give them another way to charge us - or overcharge us as the case is!
I hope they take notice of your research for sure. As Toonsoldier said earlier, no engine wears at the rate this game makes them wear and nor do the airframes. I do not get why they want to make it so difficult - what do they gain?
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Hope they do some digging to help us. Done a flight today 15m and after repairing aircraft to new it needed 7m worth of repairs after that one flight.
I have realised the longer I leave stuff the price doesn’t go up so I’m going to start leaving it until it asks me to repair
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Check, I think the landing gear is an exception. Although that is not the most expensive part of the maintenance. It is what I decided to do with my CJ4’s, I am using them until they will not fly any longer and if I desperately want to fly them I will repair THE one I am going to fly. That is until they increase the earnings of the CJ4 after increasing their price 5 fold!
This is why I am sceptical about the value of having more than one 737, ie for passive. I don’t think they earn enough to pay their way. They wear at the same rate as the one you are flying.
I’ve toyed with that idea too but I would take 300 hours to earn the aircraft back alone, obviously you can sell it later on so you’d make some profit.
Realistically I just want a 320/321 then I’ll sack all passive aircraft off anyways and make my way to a billion in the bank or something.
I’m only really playing career as my mate who’s o busy upgrading his pc so we can vatsim together as I think that’s more realistic as you have to hold behind aircraft etc
I’ll check the landing gear prices see if they go up with wear
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For starters 25hr between maintenance on a 737 is riduculously low. No airline would ever make a profit. I have 2 of these now and they both have identical failures and repair costs. Would you really expect to be forking out 29 million after 25 hrs flight? And this was mostly passive accrued flight times while I was doing medium cargo…
100% agreed. We’ve been asking for them to reduce the 737 and the CJ4 costs for ages - I hope you have better luck!
I posted the same a month ago. Utter joke. That’s easy 2 5 hour flights to pay for this and I work for a airline in the uk and there’s no way we spend 25m every 25 hours of flight and some days a aircraft does 9 hours easy. So every 3 days that would be
Out of interest, how many credits did you earn in those 25 hours per plane before paying 29,000,000 to maintain?
but your airline in the uk makes also not that profit per flight. so its useless to compare the prices with realworld 