A couple of probably obvious questions

Hi, all. I’m new to flight sim aviation (well, I flew alot around 25 years ago, but…). Anyway, I’m wanting to build a modest cockpit at home, but don’t know much about the available options for external displays like the G1000, etc. I’m sure this is the case, but is it correct that if an aircraft in MSFS is not equipped with a G1000 or other avionic, that it will not display info on said display, as in, the computer won’t just send the data to it and make it work? If that is the case, is it possible to add a G1000 or other instrument to ANY MSFS aircraft? I have a short list I like to fly, and these questions will guide wether or not I build a strictly VFR panel or not. Thanks for any help. Mike

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Good morning,

It may be beneficial to list the aircraft you are interested in and we can chime in as to what is available for it in terms of options.

Hi, and thanks for the reply. The ones I am most interested in are:

Cessna 172
ATR-400
DC-3
Beechcraft 18
Electra A10
Cessna Citation

Mike

I would look into using tablets and Spacedesk as external monitors. Check out Pop Out Panel Manager and Air Manager. That should cover everything.

Warning: this post is going to be quite long :slight_smile:

So, your options for an external G1000 setup (ie separate screens and maybe physical controls in your cockpit) are:

  1. Pop-outs - the G1000 (and 3000, and other) screens can be popped out of the sim as separate windows which can be placed on another screen, usually a touch-screen

  2. Physical hardware that replicates the G1000 - there are several vendors doing hardware like this. It looks and feels a lot like a real G1000. It has a screen in it which you connect to your PC like a monitor, and you use the pop-outs from 1 above to show the G1000 display, and then you use software of some kind (either supplier, or something like Spad.neXt) to interface the G1000 buttons and knobs to your simulator. Examples include RealSimGear, Aviatek and Emuteq.

  3. Physical hardware + extra software - a couple of vendors sell a combination of physical hardware plus a separate simulation of the G1000 which runs outside the sim. Examples include Noble Flight Sim and Simionic - the latter uses iPads in the G1000 bezels instead of screens that you plug into your PC, and the G1000 simulation is a pair of iPad apps.

Option 3 used to be a bigger thing before MSFS, because the in-sim G1000 emulation in P3D was awful, and the one in X-Plane was better but still limited. So people used the external G1000 software to more closely replicate the real thing. The trouble is, with all the various custom options available for various aircraft, plus the NXi, and so on, you usually ended up having to compromise significantly on type-accuracy. Options 1 and 2 give you the MSFS rendering of the G1000 for the aircraft type which is usually much closer to the real world feature set.

If you go with Option 1 then you would have some touchscreens, or iPads with something like SpaceDesk to import your iPad to Windows as an extra display, and you would place the popped-out G1000 screens on them, but then you need access to the controls from the bezels and MSFS does not pop out the bezels, only the contents of the screens within them; for this you’ll have to use Air Manager, and then download and use the free generic Garmin bezels from Simstrumentation which will give you touch control of the G1000. If you search for Simstrumentation on the forum you’ll find useful threads with examples of these setups.

If you go with Option 2 then you have to pick a vendor and get ready to spend A LOT of money, but you’ll then have real hardware that looks and feels like the G1000 with real buttons and knobs you can use.

Note that Option 2 only gets you the G1000. If you want to fly aircraft with the G3000 or other avionics like the ProLine in the CJ4, you really need Option 1, or both (I have both; G1000-specific hardware, and multiple touch screens that I can use the G3000 and GTCs on, and I swap as needed, but it’s not a hassle-free operation!).

As to can you add G1000 to any aircraft - well, sort of. You can edit the panels config for any aircraft to add a reference to the generic G1000 instruments. By and large, these would work provided everything was implemented in a standard way. You’d have to substitute them for existing panels in the cockpit which probably wouldn’t be the right size, and they wouldn’t work or display properly in the virtual cockpit, only on your popped-out screens. There are ways to make it work - for example, I have a frankenstein version of the King Air which uses the G1000 - but it’s not straightforward. With Option 3, I used to be able to make G1000 work with any old aircraft in P3D, but that’s because the external G1000 software talked to the sim via Simconnect. In MSFS, it’s more complicated.

If you want to know more I would strongly suggest checking out the Simstrumentation web site and maybe join their Discord. Lots of expertise on exactly what you want to do there.

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Thanks, you guys, for all the info, I really appreciate it. I will continue to look in to it, and post when I get something together (or not :slight_smile: ). Mike

Thanks for the info I have a set of G1000 Emuteq purchased secondhand and would like to connect with MSFS

If High Value Posts were pinned here on the Forum, your post would definitely be pinned😊

It’s awesome when a contributor thoughtfully puts together a thorough, detailed post like this one. Thank you for putting in the time and effort. Very cool!

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The Emuteq kit doesn’t have any kind of software available - they used to rely on software like the G1000 Simulator from Flight1Tech directly supporting their hardware. To interface it with MSFS you’ll need Spad.neXt. You might be able to do it with AxisAndOhs but I don’t use it so I couldn’t comment on that. Spad.neXt will definitely do the job, but it’s not free and you’ll need the complete edition.

Then you have to (somewhat painfully) map each of the buttons and knobs to the correct functions in MSFS. Since the G1000 is standard in the sim and (post-Working Title upgrades) everyone just uses the sim version, those events are pretty much universal to all aircraft, so once you get it working once it’ll work everywhere.

I have a working profile I can give you if you want it - PM me for details - which maps most of the functions, other than the audio panel, which I have yet to do. It uses some Mobiflight events so you’d also need the Mobiflight WASM plugin and an up to date events.txt. Basically, there’s a learning curve which you won’t be able to just skip, is what I want to say.

Thanks I would like your profile I will pm you tomorrow nearly midnight here now regards Bob

For anyone else with the Emuteq units who might be interested (though I doubt there’s that many of us) I have published snippets to the Spad.neXt database for the Emuteq G1000 PFD and MFD units. You can use these to automate these devices with Spad.neXt and MSFS.

Also, I’ve removed all the Mobiflight events and replaced them with Simconnect or MSFS events and variables, and I’ve also removed a couple of FSUIPC offset values, so all you would need is the hardware, MSFS, and Spad.neXt.

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Hi I also have an Emuteq G1000 suite and would like to use it with MSFS2020, has anyone been able to get this working fully?

Regards, David

Hi David.

You might find it useful to read through the whole thread, it’s not very long.

Per my posts above, I have a working system using Emuteq hardware, but you would require the Complete Edition of Spad.neXt to make it work, so there is an additional investment. But then you could download my profiles from the Spad snippets database, and it should all just work. Note that I haven’t done the audio panel at all, but you could program that yourself.

If you are looking for an out of the box solution to connect the units to MSFS, there really isn’t one. Emuteq never shipped software with their units and relied on you to have your own G1000 software.

You will also need to understand how to pop out panels from inside the sim and position them, for which I would recommend the MSFS Popout Panel Manager, which is free.

Hello Neil,

First, thanks for all the details about the different options.

Long story short, I am a student of a flight school undergoing EASA ATPL training yet i do need to improve my G1000 management to be better in flight.

With some kind of extreme luck, I just inherited of a Emuteq G1000 hardware that was going to the bin (my flight school getting rid of it, because no staff was able to look after the “IT stuff”).

I am not an IT wizard as you all seems to be at a point that i wasn’t even able to PM you, so replying here. Currently really struggling to use the G1000 with MSFS, now exploring the options and getting really interested by what you mentioned.

Do you mind explaining what are the main steps to follow as well as any configuration file i need to setup to map MSFS g1000 with the Emuteq hardware ?

(Flying mostly DA40/DA42 on sim and physical)

Thanks again for your help,

Cheers,

I see you’ve managed to PM me, so we’ll take this over there.

Hello, I currently own an emuteq g1000. I would like to use the g1000 with msfs2020. Can I get a spad.next profile?

My profiles are on the Spad.neXt snippets database. If you filter down by device you will find them (they are literally the only snippets for the Emuteq devices). Note that I don’t have a profile for the audio panel because I didn’t use it with MSFS.