That is correct.
I think it is not hate, just less like it because no AT. I miss AT in CRJ but at same time is nice to have something different. Because with full autoflight no matter is it Boeing or Airbus flying it in AP is similar.
Aerosoft just announced the CRJ 700 release on March 16, 2021 on a Tuesday. If you have a Aerosoft account you can download the pre manual NOW. Yeessss
First study level plane for MSFS 2020
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Just to set expectations straight, this doesnât quite check all the boxes for âstudy-levelâ as cloudy as the definition is. Itâs quite advanced tho. But for instance, it doesnât focus on failures, which is something the study-level crowd requires.
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Iâm very curious about how that will work out and together with the world map flight planning etc.
It doesnât sound easy to use oneâs own fms database to me⊠Also it implies that theyâll have to release updates with each AIRAC as well?
As for the discussion about VNAV:
My initial question was not about automated descent, but whether it will have any system at all that is able to calculate and at least display the descent glide path, taking into account all the restrictions on STAR/Approach.
Maybe the custom database will make this happen, but that would actually disappoint me since it means that the native nav data and systems of MSFS will remain in the current state for the time being, where VNAV is simply broken.
My hope was that with the CRJ and Aerosoftâs influence, weâll get something that will work for all the systems/aircraft.
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Honestly, Iâm very worried about performance here. The line in the Aerosoft forum was 15 % FPS drop compared to the default A32N. ErrâŠthat plane is one of the worst optimized POS Iâve ever seen in any sim!
The thought of crusing around at 25 FPS on my i7-10700k at 5 GHz, RTX 3070, and 32GB-3200Mhz RAM doesnât really sound all that appealing, tbh.
And thatâs for a relatively light aircraft like the CRJ, systems wise. I dread the thought of an FSLabs A320 or PMDG 737 if these FPS numbers are anything to go by.
Wow hopefully the aircraft wonât be a FPS killer 
I have 32GB 3200MHZ RAM, RTX2070S and 3700x and can run the FBW A320 smoothly at all airports on a 4k tv with the render scaling set to 70% and most graphics settings set to high. I think the CRJ will be fine.
Aerosoft has their own navdata system, like Navigraph.
It is called Nav Data Pro.
That is apparently what they are going to use.
It is derived from the Luft. database as mentioned.
Nav Data Pro has monthly updates, but has not been available for MSFS yet.
Does that mean you have to have their subscription active to receive AIRAC updates? Or will they be provided for the CRJ for free?
Is there a noticeable difference between 30 and 25 fps?
I hope this will be released in the MSFS 2020 marketplace, not through some external installer. Any word on that yet?
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I assume that the CRJ will use its own implementation of FMS and autopilot just as it does in P3D, so no, this probably wonât result in any improvement to the Asobo nav, autopilot or flight planning systems for default aircraft.
Iâm sure that this will also hold true with PMDG, Majestic, Leonardo etc. These developers will âbring their ownâ FMS and autopilots to their MSFS products, not use the native functions. Any improvements to things like this for default aircraft will have to come from Asobo.
Working Title does have a working VNAV in their CJ-4 based on enhancements to the default MSFS autopilot, so it is definitely possible to have a working VNAV using default systems.
I believe Aerosoft intends to add functionality to use the default MSFS nav database eventually in lieu of their own custom database, but Mathijs already mentioned that this is not yet implemented. The aircraft will come with a current FMS database from Aerosoftâs own NavDataPro service, but Navigraph will also undoubtedly support the FMS in the MSFS CRJ just as they do for the existing P3D version.
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What a strange thing to say⊠
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Yes it will be on the martket place same day.
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What is strange about it? When pool code from a very large number of contributors, itâs much harder to optimize. As much as you can give them guidelines, itâs definitely a challenge of working with a large group of volunteers.
This is not to say that theyâre doing a bad job. Quite the opposite.
- Weâll have flying pencils everywhere.
- A regional jet is just perfect for MSFS. Smart product, smart pricing by Aerosoft.
- It will also give a boost to the development of hand-crafted smaller airports. This is really nice.
- Iâm worried about the flight model, I hope the CRJ flies like a CRJ and not like an A320N with smaller engines.
- Iâm worried about performance but I read somewhere it is only 15% less fps than default aircraft that should be ok for everybody.
- If it needs a subscription for the nav data then it is an automatically no-buy for me. I think this would be quite silly from Aerosoft so I think nav data will work ok.
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Well if there would be a subscription required, then only to get updates. I am pretty sure it is shipped with an up-to-date AIRAC database. The question is just how to stay up-to-date, especially when flying on online networks.
Many will probably have Navigraph or similar subscriptions, but I think an addon sold with an FMS, running on a platform that gets almost every AIRAC update should not require additional subscriptions to have at least the same cycle running as MSFS itself has. Otherwise this own FMS database is a step backwards.
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I wasnât aware that by âgroup projectâ you were referring to volunteers, but either way optimization takes time and effort. One person can only do so much, and in my experience itâs often beneficial to let a performance nerd of a programmer try to see what she can squeeze out of a colleagueâs work.
But never mind, Iâm derailing a thread, once again. 
Yup, same boat. If I need to pay to keep the CRJ nav data updated then Iâm out. I do have navigraph but I donât think they are using that. So either they use the MSFS nav data or they keep their nav data updated. I only fly online so not having the nav data updated is not an option.
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