If the plane has an own nav database, it should be updated as per AIRAC on a monthly basis. Will having a Navigraph subscription be enough? Who is providing the data updates?
They use. Lufthansa database that is provided to Aerosoft.
So we’ll have to buy also the Aerosoft navdata?
No i do not THINK so … but not sure anymore on this product .
I personally think its bad that 3rd party developers are going to implement their own systems . Will be one big soup if this continues.
Also a lot of people are reluctant to buy from MSFS marketplace because of fear missing out of updates ( faster implement when buying directly from Aerosoft )
So the whole MSFS formula goes up in smoke this way … whe had a Airac database and a marketplace to keep everything streamlined.
Now the first more complex payware plane and viola ![]()
This is by no means an indication that the aircraft wasn’t developed for MSFS. No developer is obliged to use the (severely lacking) MSFS database when they have better providers available.
If you think it’s bad for third party developers to implement their own systems, you better get used to fly only the simplest of aircraft, because third-party devs that develop even remotely advanced aircraft use their own systems a lot.
You’re talking about a “MSFS formula” that exists only in your head.
It also supports Navigraph’s. That’ll be available on day one.
Hahaha you are so wrong … no worries … we think differently as we often do on this product.
So can you answer a question instead if pushing me towards a “you are not hardcore enough because you are to lazy to press an FMC button 100 times for nothing “
What can be the consequence for ATC usage ?
You seem to assume there will be any. That’s a tall assumption to make.
Well 2 different databases right … the lufhansa one is more complete … but the MSFS one is used for ATC.
Probably if I plan in MSFS using airways … take a picture of that plan with my phone or write it down … i then can load the flight and manually enter the flightplan in the CRJ. That will work and ATC will be the same …
Nice and “easy” in 2021
… and lets not forget … super hardcore because its a difficult plane huh
People have been using Navigraph without issues for months. I’m not sure why you think Lufthansa’s is a problem?
ATC uses a procedural text-to-speech system that isn’t based on the database.
I’m not exactly sure why you think developers should remain tied to a lacking database when they have better products available.
If lufthansie has waypoint “Abriael” in its database … and you plan outside msfs to use that waypoint … but it is NOT in the MSFS database … your “procedural” ATC can not use “Abriael”
Not that difficult huh
Developers now force me to painstakingly manual flyplan entry this way.
AND i never had a big problem with MSFS database like 99% of the users. You can perfectly plant a flight from a to b … perhaps real life would use a different waypoint in that route that now is missing … so what.
Perhaps names of fixes are not cordect … so what … the experience will be the same … but now i have to cumbersome FMS programming for absolutely nothing …
Why … because it is a port in its core … and not build up from the ground up for MSFS like was claimed … but we had more discussion on claims the Aerosoft did in the past
Lets end our discussion … leads to nowhere
Happy flying
To everyone talking about realism by forcing people to manually enter flight plans clearly has no idea how an FMS route is loaded in real life.
You press INIT and you get a flight plan uplink, winds aloft with prediction, that’s it. You check the route, add SID/STAR and go on with your preparation.
The simbrief integration on FBW A32NX perfectly simulates that.
Will be interesting to see if IFR flights with ingame ATC will be possible since the FMS is disconnected from the MSFS route. My guess is that you still have to set up your route in the world map, otherwise MSFS ATC won’t know where you’re going.
On the A320 and other aircraft you can use the FMS/Garmin to enter the route which the ATC is automatically aware of.
Anyway, maybe they at some point bring an option to switch to MSFS data. While being incomplete, it’s at the very least consistent and kept up to date for free.
It certainly does. You’ve done literally nothing but complaining about this aircraft and everything related to it (marketing, hype, and so forth) for weeks without having even tried it. It’s obvious that you have serious preconceptions and it almost feels like you’re doing everything you can to convince yourself and others that it won’t live up to the hype that you’ve been complaining about, so further discussion isn’t useful.
Later today I will be happily flying for sure, and I’m rather positive many, many more will be doing the same.
And you have not done anything else then putting me down … not answering my questions directly … misinterpreted my questions and remarks.
Not debating on the content … you just “forbid “ people to have an opinion or make critical remarks or statements. You must be a fine journalists ![]()
I use Navigraph, and I don’t think I’ve noticed any problems…though now that I think of it, the approaches to Paro seemed to have odd fix names that were not on the plates. I have to revisit that.
The first rule of a fine journalist (or at least a decent one) is not bashing a product before trying it.
Why be critical of a product that isn’t even out yet?
Just hold your critisicm until there are some real experiences with this specific plane. Then we can really see how enjoyable it really is. If it is not good, of course you can criticize. But not now already. Don’t bother others with unjustified negativity. Please.
No need to test smart man … it was confirmed they have the lufthansa database … it was confirmed no *.pln loading …
I am fairly certain it supports simbrief, just need to manually input SIDS and STARS.
And nothing of that has the slightest bearing on the quality of the product until anyone can actually experience whether it’s an issue or not.
I’ve certainly been wondering considering that they’ve been throwing vitriol at it for weeks on this and other threads.
No worries man … you will see how the mass respond on the aerosoft forums and here when people bought the product to find out they can not import the MSFS flight plan
And if you care on scrolling up this tread … you see a LOT of other with the same concerns and also on the Aerosoft forum.
But you like to pick me for critical questions ![]()
No worries … happy programming eeeeh i mean flying ![]()