Airliners in the Marketplace

Microsoft has to do a better job vetting the software they allow in their marketplace.
The recent 737 Max and Capt Sim 767 ER are a disgrace and shouldn’t be sold at any price on the Marketplace.
Both have panels that are borrowed from other airplanes and are poorly integrated. Functionality with displays and buttons are extremely poor and produce more frustration than it’s worth.
I bought both mods but won’t even consider using them until significant improvements are made.

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They don’t ‘vet’ anything in terms of quality/fidelity. They test for bugs/issues. You, as the consumer, are meant to do your due diligence before purchasing. Read reviews etc. If you buy it and you think it’s rubbish, well that’s your problem, not Asobo’s, I’m afraid.

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i was about to be like “oh man here we go again” but you hit the nail on the head. It’s like asking Valve to vet games before they’re released on steam. Valve doesn’t care what goes up on the store as long as it falls within their guidelines. Valve will refund your money for pretty much any reason (as long as it falls within their refund policy). Outside of 2 hours/2 weeks, having a game you don’t like is nobody’s fault but yours.

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Not even this. The certification process exists solely to make sure that a product respects Microsoft’s rules and does not break the system.

Once again, if you purchase a bad product on the marketplace or any other storefront, the responsibility lays squarely on you.

There are tons of reviews, forum posts, social media posts, discord channels, and other means of word of mouth for you to inform yourself on the quality of a product before purchasing. If you do not, it’s on you.

And before someone says “Microsoft should filter products by quality!” that’s an impossible request. First of all, it would slow down product releases on the marketplace even further, secondly, it would require wildly uneconomic manpower, and more importantly, there is no objective and fair way to determine “quality.” We’d end up with developers that get their product accepted or refused depending on whether they happened to have it tested by a more lenient or a stricter employee, and that would be massively unfair.

Do you want quality products? Great. Me too. Educate yourself on said quality and vote with your wallet. Reward quality with your money, and punish the lack of thereof by not buying it.

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your request as well as many others is infringing on my and others rights to “chose.”

i have the right to see them all and “chose,” for myself

This has been discussed 1000 times.

Microsoft does not and cannot vet marketplace releases for quality. There is no standard they could use that wouldn’t make somebody angry. You could ask five different posters on this forum what the “minimum” standard of fidelity an add-on should have to meet to be on the marketplace is and get five different incompatible answers.

It’s on the consumer to do their own research into the quality of marketplace products before buying. Furthermore, as much as many of us on this forum may look askance at the quality of the products offered by developers like Captain Sim, Bredok3d, etc, people who buy them and enjoy them do exist - who are we, or who is MS/Asobo to tell them they shouldn’t be allowed to do so?

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Maybe some sub categories. as an example, not my full opinion, just as an example. I used the dev names rather than the planes, but we can all put 2+2 together

1.Beginner (VirtuaCol / CS)
2. Moderate realism (Black Box)
3. Simulated realism (Aersosoft / IFE / P42 / Flying Iron / Black Box)
4. High realism (MilviZ / SWS / IFE / Aerosoft / PMDG / Flying Iron)
5. As real as it gets - TBA

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And who decides what goes where?

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The Dev can pick a category?

See that’s the issue. The problem is that developers obviously have different ideas about what their aircraft qualifies as. If you look at Bredok3d’s 737, they say:

“This is not a study level aircraft, but the best part of the functions is like real.”

Literally nothing of it is “like real.” As there are developers willing to describe their aircraft as something it is not, they could easily mislabel it and argue that it’s a matter of opinion.

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This subject has been brought up many times on the forum and always ends argumentative.

It’s up to the buyer to research each purchase.