Allow third party ATC solutions (such as beyond ATC) for use in career mode without penalities for not using the default ATC in the sim.
The default ATC whilst better than it was in MSFS2020 the last time I used it (a long time ago) still isn’t very good and will still ask you to do strange things and doesn’t take into account that different countries have different transition altitudes.
Totally agree! Default ATC has too many issues like not recognizing when you reach altitude, asking you to climb to cruise altitude when you are on final, identifying itself as a center thousands of miles away, and many more. Take advantage of the great third party ATC options and let us use them in career mode.
I use BeyondATC and have used it during missions…a bit wonky when on the ground as there will be frequency conflicts and redundant ATC…but at backwoods airports (no ATC) it works fine for local control using the mandatory MSFS ATC…then using the external ATC when airborne…not perfect but it works adequately. If it’s an IFR flight I cancel IFR with MSFS ATC as soon as I can - no impact on score. If you aren’t talking to ATC you can’t be dinged for missing a call.
This definitely needs to be done and is my major blocker right now from even attempting career mode however I really would like to do some missions! I use SayIntentions and it’s light years ahead of the default ATC. Also important is to separate the character voices in the career from the ATC voices. Right now there is only a slider for character voices which also turns off ATC. That’s great for getting rid of the default ATC but then you can’t hear what you’re supposed to do in the career mode from the other characters! It’s shocking some of the decisions that were made in implementing this stuff in the sim.
Would really be very nice to have the opportunity to have AI ATC or even use VATSIM and the like. Would really be a great addition to the Career mode
Been thinking about this since day one. I can’t handle the default ATC and it’s awkward requests. I’ve just been canceling IFR, turning down the character voices and using BeyondATC in the meantime.
This has my vote.
It’s an underlying problem , IMHO, that career mode is just way to hand holdy. It micromanages you when it shouldn’t.
Just give me the origin and destination, and don’t; care about how I go from A to B. If I want to use custom ATC, or no ATC, if I want to use Live, or custom, or scripted weather. Who cares? It’s a single player experience.
I often fly in IVAO while doing missions in career mode - it is a great combination - but I am ■■■■■■ when I get penalties because I CAN NOT set back the frequency the mission wants form me to give the silly radio messages I have to do - while switching back from e.g. UNICOM of IVAO where I informed the fellow members about my intentions - it is such a pity that switching frequencies messes up the whole mission algorithm.
yes used to love IFR flying but now I just cancel IFR with no penalties