Talk about replacing reality with one’s delusional bias.
Luckily for us all, things don’t become true if you repeat them often enough despite your obvious obsession with polluting every available thread with negativity.
The reception for Microsoft Flight Simulator has been nothing short of stellar.
3.) if one isn’t completely and dreadfully ignorant in what makes a good simulator and game, enjoy the game, because it’s awesome and pretty literally the best flight simulator ever released out of the box.
Thanks you speak me from my heart.
Every Sim I used I had many Payware Addons and it is worth it for those people which like the most realistic feeling. And no Sim was completly Bug free.
Today the most games are released to early but it is no rmal today but Patches will fix it.
For me the best Game and Sim of the year. The Community is doing a pretty well job and releasing Mods for the Garmin 1000 and more realistic Airliners.
And also in the next few years the community will be increase .
Because you are here, I will assume you are at least a Flight Sim enthusiast in which case I only have one question for you - would you prefer Microsoft Flight Simulator (2020 edition) was never conceived/released in the first place?
These kind of posts is the price to pay for bringing in a huge community.
We get these kids crying all the time in the forums now… I have stopped reading the General Discussion thread because it is full of hate spam.
I thnk this is the only sensible thing you’ve said here. Pity that the simmer community are embarrassing themselves by whining about seat belt buttons that don’t work and having to press a key to continue, rather than recognising that they are just part of the audience for this. If, as they seem to want, they were the only audience for this, you are bang on that this title would never see the light of day.
We shouldn’t dismiss or attempt to belittle those who feel MSFS 2020 sells them short on some of the visuals it serves up. You have a good point - for a lot of the time, this sim looks spectacular (certainly compared to every other flight sim before it) - but it regularly falls short, especially if our expectations are set perhaps a little too high.
We all see the potential of this technology to move us closer to that dream of a ‘photoreal world’ in which to fly about it. This is why when, instead, MSFS 2020 serves up some inadequate, often broken or poorly-textured facsimile of some place we had hoped to find in a much better state we often feel short-changed by the experience. I’d say that’s a valid reaction.
So - yes - at times this sim is spectacular. I’ve said it many times. One moment it looks epic, beautiful, but the next it can shatter that illusion in an instant. Perhaps it is that inconsistency that annoys the most. You’re never quite sure what you’re going to find - especially the further off the beaten track you venture in this virtual world. Hopefully, over time (and I’m talking years), MSFS 2020 will improve to the point that such inconsistencies become very much the exception.
No problem with your post - your point being that not all areas as as good as others. That’s not a huge surpirse given we are talking about the whole world that is being generated and not just plastered over with repeating textures from the dark ages simulators. However, the post I was responding to was the gnerality that “every other area of the game” is poor. It is patently not. The emotional hyperbole becomes tiresome after a while.
Absolute nonsense, I’ve witnessed some incredible areas in the time I’ve played since release. Sure some are worse than others and need updating but it’s not all that bad, as for it being abandoned that’s just laughable really, it’s got a 10 year Development plan… Rome wasn’t built in a day!
Why are you only giving me a binary choice between no simulator, and a simulator that is only partially complete, and full of bugs? Can we not expect a bit more as consumers?
What I would prefer is to pay full price for a completed product with minimal bugs. Or, in the case of early-access titles like this one, I would prefer to pay less (what it is actually worth based on where it is in development).
I continue to be amazed by the inexplicable defense of the developer by so many of you. It is like Stockholm syndrome for gamers in these forums.
I gave you a binary choice because of your opening comment - It is poor, just like every other area of the game - made a binary summation of the sim.
What you have bought and paid for with MSFS is a future for flight sims - if it hadn’t been produced we would have been stuck with the current available titles, and which of those dev teams have the resource to even attempt what MS/Asobo have done here?
Nothing is perfect out of the box nowadays, especially when it comes to software. Can you give me any examples of a major software package released in the last 5-10 years that hasn’t needed to be patched or Service Packed? I am not defending Microsoft or Asobo - they will be judged by the Community which they serve and if ultimately those communities choose not to use their software the products will die. What does annoy me and I will defend them on though is people making blanket statements about how rubbish this product is when it is quite clearly not the case. It makes me wonder if some have an alternative agenda…
No, I cannot - that is obviously unrealistic; but that is not what I am suggesting either. From Half Life to Star Craft, to Overwatch, to Rocket League and Call of Duty, Counter Strike GO, all of these titles have been patched after release. However, while these titles had bugs in them (some of them quite amusing), none of them had broken core functionality at the time of their release.
With MSFS2020, I actually can’t think of any core system that is fully implemented, or otherwise working as marketed. While this statement is speculative on my part, it seems like people posting in these forums have called out nearly every aspect of the game at this point with some sort of issue. This is somewhat confirmed by the patch release notes (if you can call them that because they are so vague) which seems to list nearly every aspect of the game as being fixed/adjusted.
I’m running on High/Ultra settings on a 1 year old I7 8700 w/32G ram and a 2070 on an SSD. If you are expecting it to look like payware everything, then your expectations are too high. Does the Airport look a bit generic? Of course it does, how else do you expect them to make money in the store if everything was payware quality to start with?
As it stands, this Sim is the best base platform we have over P3D, XP and FS2010. This is the platform that will carry us simmers into the next 10 years.
@FishDude1072 I cannot deny a proportion of users have had problems but for every one complaint it will be safe to assume there are ten users who are happy with the initial release. Remember, they claim over 1 million users, of which we certainly haven’t had one hundred thousand complainers.
Anyway, I respect your right to voice your opinion and indeed your right of choice. Stay with it or don’t - nothing I will say will change your mind, nor do I want to.
I think you raise some valid points (particularly about incomplete functionality). At this stage I’m over my release day excitement; now I understand why Asobo insisted this thing has a 10-year tail. It’s obvious this is a huge job - a multi-year task of continuous patching, improving, updating. I can reconcile my expectations to that. Time to hunker down for the long haul, because that’s what this is going to be.
I’m just envious of those who come to this sim for the first time 5 years from now, and who will experience a much-improved sim as their first encounter with MSFS. Early adoption is such a mug’s game; but we can’t help ourselves.
I’d love to see the data that supports that claim. It certainly isn’t supported by steamcharts. I suppose that nearly everyone could have purchased it through the MS Store… but somehow I doubt it.
I’m sure that the Aces team thought the same thing with FSX. There’s the plan, and there’s financial reality. I suspect they didn’t help themselves get closer to 10 years of financial support with a “meh” release.
