Always CTD - nothing works, how to get a real support

I bought the Deluxe version on Steam months ago and I was NEVER able to run it once.
It ALWAYS CTD before reaching the main menu, no matter the workaround I’ve tried:

Exception code: 0x80000003
Error offset: 0x0000000001e0bfa0

What I tried so far:

  • updated BIOS
  • disabled XMP
  • in Steam, verified the integrity of the files
  • ran MSFS in safe mode
  • ran MSFS as Administrator
  • applied all the pending Windows Update items
  • checked dxdiag: no errors
  • installed either Adrenaline and Pro versions of the drivers
  • removed and installed older versions of the drivers (down to 2021)
  • set the virtual memory to fixed size (16 GB)
  • set the virtual memory to automatic
  • set the virtual memory to none
  • disabled the network before launching MSFS
  • changed the AMD Radeon profile: Game, Power save, etc…
  • disabled the Steam Cloud Save and removed its folder
  • checked the integrity of the files in Steam
  • ran Dism /Online /Cleanup-Image /CheckHealth
  • ran Dism /Online /Cleanup-Image /ScanHealth
  • ran Dism /Online /Cleanup-Image /RestoreHealth
  • ran sfc /scannow
  • ran chkdsk C: /r (windows partition)
  • ran chkdsk D: /r (data partition)
  • uninstalled and installed again MSFS from scratch
  • formatted the hard-drive and installed Windows from scratch
  • changed graphic card to RTX 4080
  • reinstalled again MSFS from scratch (for the very first time I was able to reach the main menu and to flight about 30 minutes). On the next reboot, the same problem (CTD before main menu) appeared again
  • ran memtest, 2 passes
  • reduced GPU power to 46% with MSI Afterburner
  • verified the xbox app is running and logged in with the same user (of Windows and Steam)
  • (temporary) disabled Windows Defender and Windows Firewall
  • tried to run MSFS offline (turning off the WiFi connection)
  • installed English voice package
  • set English as language for non-Unicode softwares

My system fits well the minimum requirements:

  • Windows 11 Pro
  • AMD Ryzen 9 7950X
  • 32 GB RAM
  • Radeon RX6800 XT (now RTX 4080 16 GB)
  • 850W power supply

No mods yet, no overclock, no USB peripherals, no antivirus, no other applications. Just a clean install of Windows 11 and Steam.

I’m quite annoyed about the lack of support about this game.
Steam does not offer any support, just link to this forum where I see many people with the same problems and NEVER a technical answer (by Microsoft) about how to find out the root cause of their failure.

I was going to buy a nvidia RTX 4080 but it’s very expensive and I have no clue that it would solve the problem.

Is there a reliable way to fix this problem or to get a REAL technical support for a PURCHASED product?

Dear Andresim,

I would report your issues to ZenDesk, here is a link to the FAQ…

For the time being, I would let Windows handle your virtual memory on your computer. Just for good measure, you might want to make sure that your memory modules are seated properly in their slots. I don’t think you should run MSFS as an Administrator, I tried this and it causes a CTD from what I recall.

You say that you are not using an anti-virus however, you should have Windows Defender. I would create exceptions for all of your MSFS folders when configuring an anti-virus.

Charles.

To get MSFS support, from the “Support” tab, which is at the top of every forum page, select “Submit A Request”.

If you would like to do more troubleshooting on your own, this article is a good place to start.
It is also found in the “Support” tab.

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I had similar with a 7600x. Tried for days to resolve and finally found a post recommending turning off PBO and Core Performance Boost. Havent has a crash since. My CPU is now (only) getting 4.6Ghz but it is fast enough for VR

What GPU driver are you running? It states nowhere you’re keeping that one up to date via the AMD website.

Currently, I’m up to date with Adrenaline drivers 23.4.3 as I’m writing.

I was not so clear, I’ve also disabled Windows Defender.

Just tried. Disabled both in BIOS and tried to run MSFS: again CTD before reaching the main menu.

I have a similar setup and I have tried everything that you have and some more. In the past couple of years I found that the only thing that prevented CTDs 99.99% of the time was to limit 6800XT’s max frequency to 70% via AMD control panel (everything else is at default settings). Could possibly be a faulty GPU but who knows, I won’t change it now. Worth trying applying the same workaround just in case, as it’s free. I may still get the odd CTD here and there with MSFS being what it is (i.e. super unstable to 3rd party addons, locations etc) but at least I’ve ruled out the GPU and I can now fly for hours on end almost always.

If I understood correctly, I clicked on “Manual tuning”, then enabled the GPU tuning and set the Max Frequency to 65%.

Launched MSFS and it crashed again before reaching the main menu. When it CDT, the Metrics panel showed 4% as “Utilization” of the GPU and a Clock Speed around 30 MHz (like nothing).

  1. Do you play any other hardware stressing Steam games? Do they load and run smoothly?
  2. Have you downloaded and run Unigine Superposition? It’s a GPU benchmarking tool.
  3. Have you run CPU-Z Stress Test?
  4. Have you run MemTest+?

Yes that’s correct. Sorry to hear it didn’t work either. My MSFS wouldn’t need to be stressed before it CTD’ed. Sometimes it would crash in the menu, sometimes just before the menu loads, sometimes 10-20 minutes into a flight.

A very few other games began having similar issues at some point, which made me suspect it was mostly a GPU issue and this is how I came up with my workaround (though other potentially heavier games never crash at all even at 100% max freq and full settings, so it must be a combination of game and mostly GPU). The GPU wouldn’t even crash under stress testing. It would only crash for MSFS and 4-5 other games at most.

If yours always crashes just before reaching the menu then it must be something else. And at this point it’ll most likely be pure luck if its gets fixed or some random advice by the community rather than through MSFS’s official support.

Yes to all, but 3. I’m going to try CPU-Z Stress Test.

UPDATE
I installed CPU-Z and ran the Stress test without any problem.

I’m a developer (not very expert) and I’m not used to rely on “luck”.
Must be a reason, but I don’t understand why we have to try random advice (don’t mis-understand: they are welcome!) instead of following a step-by-step procedure in order to surely find the root cause of a crash.

If it would happen once in tons of hours it would be hard, I know. But in my case, the crash is 100% repeatable at the very same loading progress - no matter what I change.

You have a good point, however without a proper meaningful stack trace and/or debugging tools (not to mention nearly non-existent dedicated Customer Support*), it’s nearly impossible to tell what 0x80000003 stands for specifically for MSFS.

The same for the dreadful and more common 0x80000005.

So with the root cause remaining unknown or attributed to a few dozen potential root causes all different from each other (googling MSFS 0x80000003 produces a ton of workaround proposals), any workaround found by the community seems to be more than random luck than anything deterministic.

*Even the solution proposed in https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/flightsimulator-exe-application-error-0x80000003-a-breakpoint-has-been-reached/ does not come from official helpdesk but from a helpful user.

This sounds like loading problem. Sign out and sign back in. It’s worth a try.

Sign out/in from what? From Windows I restarted the whole OS hundreds of times.
From Steam, I can try.

This really is a head scratcher. Sounds like something fundemental in the BIOS or memory utilisation of your particular configuration.

Is there any way you could see if your copy will install and work on another machine? It would at least conclusively rule in or out a problem with the way Steam has delivered/installed your copy of MSFS

Actually I have another machine to try. It has an i7 but with no GPU… do you think it could at least start? Even if it is a PowerPoint presentation…

By the way, what about remove the GPU from my current machine? To rule out the GPU…