I’m advocating using what the FAA requires, and what’s used in the US, when flying in the sim in the US.
Not sure why some of you are so confused.
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Seems pretty simple to me - FAA and ICAO ATC is well defined and documented.
It just may now, be a lot of work, to go back and accommodate the differences,and make it correct.
As in most things, it might have been a lot easier to have spent the time to get it right 1st time, rather than having to redo it a 2nd or 3rd time.
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Definitely - and as for brevity it seems the complete opposite. I usually mute voices and let the copilot do the constant nattering with radar controllers in flight. Problem is when I near somewhere I might want to land at ‘spur of the moment’ and want ATIS from the nearest big enough place. I sail on hoping for enough break so I can get a transmission in edge-on but usually no chance.
Exactly why over-yakking is bad with proper real-life R/T
Why is ATC all of a sudden giving me altimeter with my takeoff clearance?! This (almost) never happens in US.
Even the wind reports with a runway clearance (takeoff/line up/landing) should be “sometimes”, not “always.”
Please pick one standard and get it right. No half of both.
This is standard in EU, maybe they’ve mixed things up.
Regarding QNH, I have never been passed altimeter info during line-up or take-off. Thats just weird.
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Maybe we need to take my ICAO phraseology mod. and make it into a better FAA phraseology mod. 
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I just got “Bigbird 123, Altimeter 29.99, Wind 360 at 13, Runway 16R, cleared for takeoff.”
This is wrong on so many levels, FAA or not.
They need to either perfect the FAA phraseology or convert to ICAO. Not half FAA, half ICAO and third half nonsense.
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How to do this?
Well I have a mod which turns the FS2020 ATC phraseology into ICAO phraseology. It can be changed into FAA phraseology the same way. I have no knowledge about FAA phraseology but anybody else can open the ps1 file from my mod in notepad and change the text-to-speech.
I have no experience modding FS but I’ll take a look.
Asobo, not trying to be negative, but the latest change to ATC scripts (1.19.9.0) is less correct and worse by both FAA and ICAO standards than SU5. Please run these changes by real pilots before just making these updates.
In my script the first part is the original text (highlighted), the installer looks up this area of the original locPak file to replace with what is behind it.
ATC reads waypoint 20E30 as “Twenty times ten to the power of thirty.”
Let’s fix the ATC Phraseology?!
I say we make a joint project with all pilots to make the ATC work better.
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Uhm, this already exists?
At least for ICAO phraseology. FAA wise the sim is not that far off as I understand?
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Some work has been completed on this, believe SU5 did a lot to fix ATC. It still needs more work, as it seems every 5 minutes of a flight, I am being handed off to another controller, which takes away from my flying the plane. Hopefully, this will all get fixed soon.
Some of the phraseology, is because they use a computer voice to speak. Computers have lots of issues with hyphenated or words which have accents in them. Fort Worth, TX used to be real issue. The National Weather Service for at least 12 years that I know of, had same problem with the word Don’t. Once about year or so ago, someone went in and fixed all their words which had issues.
Part of the hand-off problem will likely continue to exist as it has since the early days of canned ATC 
It simply is question of the control sector borders, both horizontally and vertically.
If you just happen to fly along right on the fence so to speak between a West and an East sector on a northerly heading, everytime you drift a little left you are in the West sector and if you drift a little right you are in the East sector. And the software would give you a freq change evrytime. A human controller will likely keep you with him/her as long as its reasonable to expect you are going to be in that sector for a while.
Add in a vertical cut off in MSFS and you are now potentially bounced around between 4 different controllers 
Hi there
As a new FS user you may be unaware of a couple of matters of interest to trained pilots regarding the inadequate and amateurish ATC engine in MSFS as issued.
There is a phraseology mod "ICAO-EU ATC Phraseology Mod V2.0.6 " written by a European Airline Pilot “Ninje” which improves considerably the ATC phraseology from a European point of view.
I am pleased that MSAsobo have somewhat improved, in a piecemeal fashion, the ATC engine functionality over the recent months. I find that, most of the time, both VFR and IFR is fairly usable but it is still limited in scope and flexibility. They are trying…but much still remains to be done before ATC is properly realistic.
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not only is ATIS unreliable and unco-ordinated with ATC and real weather (when it is most needed) but the format is not ICAO and is clearly for entertainment only. Its purpose as every pilot knows is to inform whether a takeoff or approach is safe.Also the scrolling text under the ATC window is unrealistic and superfluous.
I have seen 50+ posts on this forum relating to this issue since MSFS was issued and nothing has been done.
I would recommend any pilot to ignore it and seek ATIS from other scources…there are some “out there”
I don’t understand why they don’t just copy the real world METAR and use it as ATIS. Since MSFS is supposed to mimic live weather that should not be an issue. Only need to apply magnetic variation to the wind direction, otherwise copy paste. Should the weather in sim deviate somewhat then no problem! In real life the weather also never exactly matches the ATIS.
Real wisdom once again from your good self ! I always use your ICAO phraseology mod (for which I thank you ) wherever I am flying…sounds so much better to a trained pilot than MSFS default. Still much to do with ATC before its scope and flexibility is adequate. I’m sure you are watching !
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