ATR VNAV makes absolutely no sense

ISSUE DESCRIPTION

  • I have so far not managed to engage VNAV during climb while in-flight. It arms on ground but then is immediately lost in flight.
  • The VDEV randomly appears, instead of 5 minutes prior TOD.
  • Adjusting the flight path angle (PERF INIT page) does not affect the TOD.
  • Cruising altitude should not be adjustable during flight, while correctly displayed as a green value, it is adjustable. Incorrect, cruise altitude selection is automatic in flight.
  • When in VNAV PATH, the VDEV (left of the altitude) seems to act like a flight director (a vertical speed deviation indicator of sorts) rather than showing the vertical deviation. The VDEV in the FMS is always showing -1 feet, the VDEV centers when the vertical speed matches the magenta bug.
  • What the VDEV should be showing is the deviation above or below PATH, 250 ft per dot, 500 ft being full scale deflection.
  • The FMS TGT VS makes zero sense, as can be seen in the video, while diving below the path, the TGT VS increases. When below path, the opposite should happen.
  • Selecting VNAV after TOD causes an insane 6000 ft/min dive.

It all just seems completely random to me, in any case, this is how it is supposed to work:

ATR VNAV explanation

FREQUENCY OF ISSUE

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REPRODUCTION STEPS

  • With the VDEV displayed, select VNAV to start a PATH descent
  • Deviate above or below the path, observe the VDEV on the FMS not changing
  • Now select VNAV back on and observe the VDEV acting like a flight director, it isn’t indicating the altitude above or below path, rather, it centers when the TGT VS is reached.
  • Note that the TGT VS not making any sense for the deviation from the path.

YOUR SETTINGS

Not relevant.

MEDIA


Cruise altitude green, yet adjustable (should not be adjustable in flight):

Insane 6000 ft/min dive, followed by autopilot disconnect for a 700 ft deviation above the path:

Adjusting flight path angle does not affect TOD:

Selecting a lower altitude, VDEV appears immediately (here 12 minutes before TOD) instead of 5 minutes prior to the NEW top of descent. Even though we haven’t even reached TOD yet, the target VS is 1900 ft/min and the vertical deviation is -1 ft, despite being on path (VDEV -1 ft) the VDEV indicator next to the altitude tape indicates that we are full scale above path…

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ISSUE DESCRIPTION

VNAV in the ATR is still a mess after AAU2.

The Aircraft is not able to follow the VNAV-PATH. It always changes to other AP-Modes.

Normal (if you read any SOPs) is to fly in VNAV-IAS to the TOC. Than it should be in ALT (with VNAV-PATH) armed. When you reach the TOD ist should automaticly descend if you set a lower Altitude wehn reaching the TOD (< 10 NM).

I just cant get it to work! VNAV-PATH always gets deselectet. At TOD nothing happens!

FREQUENCY OF ISSUE

Every flight!

REPRODUCTION STEPS

Please list clear steps you took in order to help our test team reproduce the same issue:

  1. Start Flight

  2. Initialise the FMS

  3. Go flying

YOUR SETTINGS

No Mods. Only the AAU2-ATR72

MEDIA

No Screenshots because of constant issues. VNAV-Modes just dont work as the SOPs say.

You cannot arm VNAV on the ATR, as soon as you level-off at ALT SEL, VNAV will cancel (both during climb and descent). So it won’t automatically descend. But yes, it is really borked.

This is how VNAV functions (should function) on ATR:

ISSUE DESCRIPTION

Description of the issue: Many issues relating to the vertical path creation and management in the ATR

FREQUENCY OF ISSUE

How often does this occur for you (Example: Just once, every time on sim load, intermittently)?
Always

REPRODUCTION STEPS

Please list clear steps you took in order to help our test team reproduce the same issue:

  1. LFMN-LFKC

  2. SODRU8B SID

  3. SODRU2K STAR

MEDIA

Level-off arrow and TOD marker not identical, even though same value (FL130)

Approaching SODRI, the VNAV path disappeared and time to TOD froze at 0000/26NM

I have this happening as well. As for the climb, ever since the latest update, it does arm and switches to VNAV IAS mode, but it just ignores any altitude constraint, blows right through it. And it also won’t change to ALT*/ALT as it reaches the selected altitude, instead it remains in the VNAV IAS mode. The speed changes to cruise speed, and it continues to climb slowly at that speed instead of leveling off because it never captured the selected altitude. Disappointing really, after all the years of development, this aircraft still can’t do basic stuff. LNAV also does some weird things, but that’s a whole different story.

Yes same here.

only way I can get it out of ALT/ALT* to dissent back to selected altitude is to set PWR manager to cruise on the nob.

But it will randomly get locked into alt or vnav modes and not change or come out of them when selected to do so.

also TOD vnav dose not work at all. keeps wanting to climb at each waypoint instead of dissend.