Autopilot-Approach is not working since the latest update to 1.29.30.0

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Are you using Developer Mode or made changes in it?

Dev-Mode yes, changes no

Have you disabled/removed all your mods and addons?

Addon is only an Aircraft from the shop Beechcraft V35B Bonanza

Brief description of the issue:

Since the latest update to 1.29.30.0 the APPROACH function of the autopilot is not working - inside the aircraft at the panel button and also not with SimConnect Event “AP_APR_HOLD_ON” that is sent to the FS from my hardware.
Even if the hardware is not connected, the function on the panel does not work.

It seems that this problem exists in general, because in the C172-G1000 the APR button does not work either

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Flight from EDCD to EDDB, attached example for one situation. This worked until update well.
EDCD_to_EDDB_04f.FLT.txt (16.4 KB)

PC specs and/or peripheral set up if relevant:

Aircraft Beechcraft V35B Bonanza and also C172-G1000

Build Version # when you first started experiencing this issue:

1.29.30.0

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No answer, very bad support.

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Hello,

I expect this as in sim AP actual state problem because in future WTT new things incorporated. Really I have same problems but what is strange, some times is all working and sometimes not so I expect some not implemented things still inside some 3-rd party and also inside Asobo aircraft. With random not functionality it is seems like in sim code problem, with possible not solved possible other combinations with AP settings, FPL changes. I’m starting afraid to January update heh

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Hello,
thank you for reply, so I’m not the only one with this problem. I’m using standard Event-IDs from here
AIRCRAFT AUTOPILOT/FLIGHT ASSISTANCE EVENTS and Values from here AIRCRAFT AUTOPILOT/ASSISTANT VARIABLES, some IDs are working but none of the APR commands. I hope that the next update will bring the functions back.

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Back?

I don’t know if this is decision. Maybe due new AP and WTT functionality all will be more complex and better but changed from previous system. Who knows. Is any chance you can report any SDK/API change log about some events change/new/not use anymore?

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Yes, I think functions like the Approach should come back because many small aircraft are using an autopilot like Bendix KAP-140 or with similar functions. I developed hardware based on this model and its operation, and it works until the update. The SDK documentation has not changed the description for that. I posted the hardware here Arduino Parts for Avionics and Cockpit controls . The Autopilot was my latest project at the end of the post.
There are used many variables and IDs from the SimCommect SDK.
Sim_Values_and_IDs.txt (11.4 KB)

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This is a peer-to-peer support forum. If you want formal technical support from Microsoft, please file a Zendesk Ticket. Thanks.

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ok, thank you. I thought that since bugs are posted here, that this part of the forum is also monitored by the developers of the FS2020. Bugs are usually only solvable by the programmers.

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With approach apr mode on ILS you will need to switch back to vloc in some planes you also need to make sure you dial in the ils frequency manually as even though selected in flight plan it made not be on the nav radios

with RNAV should be left on gps i always find RNAV a bit hit or miss
but generally apr mode is working fine for me
i dont use the new wtt garmins as i found they were breaking a lot of things so removed them

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The bugs are monitored. But so far, this report by you doesn’t meet one of the minimum requirements: reproduction by others using similar or exact same settings or scenario. Technically, this should be moved to #community-support for triage first, which it has.

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Thank you for the hints, I will try a new flight. Until the update, the saved flight near the destination airport worked. In the nav radio is the right ILS frequency. I can not activate the APR button in the plane and also not with the SimConnect command string “AP_APR_HOLD_ON” from the hardware. I’m not a newbie in programming SimConnect clients for MS-FS. I have done this since FS2004.

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@ PeppyRapier3271

If I could ask,

is there any other event with AP APR mode selector? Really I’m out of this quite long time, last in 2010 with my own apps if I good remember. If yes, can you do some tests?

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I experienced a lot of GPS issues with the latest GNS530 update from the marketplace.
So if it is installed try if those issues are present after uninstalling the WT Gns430/530.

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The problem exists also only in the aircraft (Beechcraft V35B Bonanza bought from inside the FS2020) if no hardware is connected. SimConnect clients are not running. No other additional software is installed. The ILS frequency is tuned in in the NAV receiver.
If hardware is connected and the SimConnect client is running only one APR command is sent to the FS. If the value of “AUTOPILOT APPROACH HOLD” is false, then “AP_APR_HOLD_ON” else “AP_APR_HOLD_OFF”. I monitored the value, it is false, but nothing is happen on keypress.
I had realized most of the functions that are desribed in the manual of KAP-140 and they worked good in this aircraft until the update.
Because I do all of the programming in my spare time, I will give up.
Thank you for your answers.

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I have the V35, and it’s using a 430 which is likely the sim core code (currently Asobo if on production sim).. If you are on AAU 1, then the beta code is being used.

Carenado may need to make changes to the V35 to work with the new code if the latter situation applies. Working Title has cautioned this repeatedly during the beta rollout.

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Thank you for information. What is AAU 1? Where can I see if beta code is used?
Do you know a single prop aircraft with an autopilot like KAP-140 that would work as before?

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There is a complete Beta Section in the forums, including release notes here:

https://forums.flightsimulator.com/c/aircraft-avionics-i-beta/beta-news/371

The KAP-140 is not modified by the beta. I’m not sure whose code that is - Asobo’s or Carenado’s.

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Hello,

eeeeeehm can you better describe this situation? Can you confirm Carenado or other V35 because not only Carenado si available for MSFS. If Carenado then it can be clear because I have similar problem with WTT new core AP functionality, probably. In my Seneca same, KAP AP and I can’t set AP options if I’m on ground :smiley: I remember this problem some time ago and I can set that AP options only in the air. As I said some where else, this can be really big problem because many aircraft are not updated from Carenado quite long time and I’m afraid that they will not be in short future.

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I’m not on ground. I had the flight from EDCD to EDDB stored with the following situation:

  • AP ist turned on,
  • ALT HOLD at 3000 ft
  • HDG HOLD at 297°
  • OBS is set to 244°
  • NAV1 frequency is set to the ILS 109.50
  • APR function is activated

If the flight is loaded the values are set right until I press “Ready to fly”. Then all values are set to false and it is not possible to activate APR.
Now I found a workaround for me. I removed the section of GNS530 as Grogaholic suspected above.

[VCockpit01]
size_mm = 320,234
pixel_size = 320,234
texture = $AS530_Screen
htmlgauge00=NavSystems/GPS/AS530/AS530.html, 0, 0, 320,234

in the panel.cfg of the V35-Bonanza in
C:\Users.…l\AppData\Local\Packages\Microsoft.FlightSimulator_8wekyb3d8bbwe\LocalCache\Packages\Official\OneStore\microsoft-aircraft-v35-bonanza\SimObjects\Airplanes\MSCarenado_V35_Bonanza\panel

Now this intrument is blank. I can do this, because I realize some functions with my hardware. And the AP functions are working like before.

I am still of the opinion that it cannot be that one instrument blocks the settings of the other. Normally, the flight simulator should be the central instance to which events are transferred and processed accordingly and send the information to other instruments, for example with variables. This is the only way that functions can be operated from different sources, e.g. also from SimConnect.

Thanks to all

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Do you know, how to contact Carenado support. The V35 is not offered in their shop. It is offered by Microsoft inside the FS.