Azure outage discussion, and its effects on MSFS

It’s all for the benefit of console users/players/simmers who are limited in disk space and additional storage options.

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Wait, you have 10s of petabytes of storage available in your PC? Nice.

But seriously, I’m ok with it being more cloud based, they just need to fix whatever is happening lately. And they will, because it’s not just MSFS being affected.

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Not just console, but PC users as well. It’s an easy argument to make that disk prices for >1TB are incredibly cheap now, but you can’t know each individuals circumstances.

Indeed. It would be impossible to have the sim as we enjoy it online be the same offline. Any answer along the lines of “I would just download what I need for this flight.” should be met with “From where?”.

Yeah, making it more cloud based allow them to fix things faster (or break things faster :rofl:). Not everyone have unlimited bandwidth and will be happier to downalod less data every update.

They still have to provide the minimum so users can still fly off-line, but offering all features off-line is impossible. I don’t even use the rolling cache anymore.

That said, they should assess why those sequential outages are happening in a short period of time. And I mean MS, not Jörg or Asobo, they can’t do much (only thing I think they can fix is settings being erased every time an outage happens).

Not sure if it would be faster, or slower, but more convenient for the end user. I fire up the sim, and I get a nice little notification at the top right telling me something has an update waiting. I don’t need to chase down an email for a link, or go to some support site.

I haven’t for nearly three years now. I believe it was as contributor to my sim instability.

I’d be quite happy to have only photoscenery, PG and Live Weather in the cloud. Everything else could be on my PC - I currently have “665 GB free of 1.81 TB.”

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It’s faster in a way developers just need to fix their local files (server side) and it will work for all users. At least that’s what I’ve heard from devs (not sim related). When they need to release updates for the final users, they take longer in QA testing.

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but to save the settings and a minimum at the pc so that it work if a server not work…is not to much to ask for?
or that you can save a part were you can fly if cloud not work…
but as is at moment,one evening you can not fly,the next you have to put settings back,then it work a few days,bäng…next problem.
i know not any one get this,but for me this happen to much since su15.
even a option to save this on my pc,if some do not want it is ok.

That’s one area the sim could do with a lot of improvement to, graceful handling of Azure outages. Don’t just leave the user hung at the checking for updates screen. Don’t assume this is a brand new user, and wipe a users profile.

Correctly detect the outage after some short timeout period, then ask the user if they wish to start the sim in offline mode, listing facilities that may not be available. The locally cached copy oft the profile is loaded, and you can still fly but with offline terrain, offline voices, no live traffic etc. But you can still fly.

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the banner for outage is gone for me,so no risk to start the sim now???

Azure status shows they made some network changes, but the overall status has not changed as yet.

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AFAIK, the settings file is saved locally, but there’s a bug that replaces the settings with a new file every time there’s an outage. I’m not sure there’s a way to avoid that for now, but yeah, they should work with the Xbox team to fix that.

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I think Seb said last stream they don’t have control over it (settings being replaced when an outage happens). They just enabled the option to save in the cloud, but everything else is managed by the Xbox staff. I guess they need to work it out with them (meaning Jörg needs to talk to them).

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I’m currently descending the FSS E170 into Dusseldorf from Manchester, no problems so far.

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give it a try,so far it load…if i can not fly i can reset my settings then…
good is after all this the time to do get shorter every time :wink:

If in doubt, always back up your local profile copy first. The often called “wgs” folder.

%LOCALAPPDTA%\Packages\Microsoft.FlightSimulator_8wekyb3d8bbwe\SystemAppData\wgs\
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i have,but put it back do not work a few times :grimacing:

It can be somewhat more involved than simply putting it back:

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same here,so it get replaced…
it need to be fixed,and give option to save were you want.
this is a no go as is!!!

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Another week, another issue.

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