Before you buy the captain sim hercules C-130

The purpose of MS developing MSFS this way was to open the flight simulation experience to everyone with an MS console or a PC with ONE product. They have made no mistake about that. For the development of a civilian flight simulator to be successful it must have a broader base of users than just ‘experienced flight sim enthusiasts’…The only other option is to do what the combat flight sims have done and ‘specialize’ for each audience. War Thunder and the like for casual gamers, and DCS or Il2 etc for the more serious customer. I think people would have preferred that method here but for one house to make two parallel flight sims probably makes no fiscal sense on their side of it.
So instead MS appears to be trying to make MSFS a canvas against which customers can fly any way they like. The Marketplace reflects that approach obviously. All I have said regarding CS is that they seem to have abandoned their established base of flight sim enthusiasts and gone instead with the gamers corner. Maybe they can make more models (since there is nothing to them now) and set a far lower price than they used to, and therby sell a lot MORE of them. Nothing wrong with that as long as they clearly define their products that way - and they seem to be.
I am grateful that there are other established developers, as well as some new ones coming online, who are interested in making much finer ‘experienced enthusiast’ grade aircrafts for MSFS that WE can buy. I don’t think one side will wipe out the other - I think MS has made the right (if unpopular) decision. One very Big Tent.

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No one will blame you for supporting a dev like this, but don’t blame others for warning people about these zombie planes :slight_smile:

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This forum’s posts are heavily dominated by a small cadre of very vocal hardcore… er… “serious…” flight sim fans who are concerned that having a variety of complexity levels available on the sim will harm the chances of getting additional sophisticated aircraft in the sim. These folks are worried about and dismissive of more casual users, which in the end, ironically, is more harmful to the platform because those casual users are necessary to justify the millions of dollars in developer and data costs that MS is putting into the sim each year. So I don’t buy in to the “race to the bottom” argument.

BUT! I think there are minimum quality standard for even casual and newbie fliers, and this doesn’t meet them.

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I think a working cockpit of some kind would be one of those minimum requirements.

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Yep. I think we can all–hardcore, casual, or inbetween–agree that being able to fly the plane while sitting in the cockpit is bare-minimum functionality for everything post-FS98. :slight_smile:

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I feel the same way. I literally have a flight sim game on my Samsung cell phone that has a cockpit view-and the game is FREE. Who would have thought something available on Google play has more features than something CS created for a gaming PC…

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My analysis of WHY they are doing this and how this product is justified.

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It’s sad to see CS race to the bottom to maximize their revenue stream; I really enjoyed their 707 and the Herc in both COF2004 and FSX. I’d initially hoped their 777 gag was a way of generating revenue to invest in the development of something worthy to stand beside their earlier work. Guess not. Hopefully Milviz or Justflight or Aerosoft might take this on one day. If the sim stays around as MS keeps saying it will, I suspect the very best is yet to come in terms of addon quality.

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CS should be banned from the payware market.
There are freeware creators ( for example Gotgravel) that deliver much more quality and are open for donations.
Already saving money to purchase the PMDG 777 as soon as they release it at some point in the future.

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Well they can’t be banned, as legally, they’re not doing anything wrong. Now if we get into morally, that’s another thing entirely.

I just think the more people that do research before buying, the less these products will sell. So, education is the key here.

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Before anyone questions what I mean by ‘educate’, I mean ‘present the facts with no bias, and allow people to make their choice accordingly’

Nobody is trying to ruin CS here. Just give them a reminder that it’d be prudent for them to up their game and put a bit more effort in.

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“Darkness falls across the land…” :rofl:

Listening to the video now, but my assumption is, given their “Do not use for flight”, that this is literally just an asset for use with static aircraft. They seem to be using the sim as if it were the Unity asset store, and you could use your product to place it as a static object in a scenery. But even then it would only be fully usable by others that also bought this. Still, that’s my guess.

Let’s see what the video says…

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captainsim is such a fraud…

Okay, so I retract my earlier statement, as I was reading far too deeply in to this. The videos suggestion that their MSFS products are aimed at a certain demographic of users that are happy to fly the plane only from the outside makes sense, and it leads me to wonder if MSFS was never multi-platform would any of their current crop of products even exist. Looking at their previous products, for other sims, its shocking how much of a downturn in quality has occured.

It’s all water under the bridge now. There are many developers out there that are releasing products at comparable prices, but at a far higher fidelity, and I’ll support them instead.

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Very soothing voice by the way, very relaxing and pleasant to listen to. :relieved:

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In the future, Captain sim will release a “nothing” with a default B747 cockpit at a higher price.

Good idea!! Could be a futuristic stealth bomber creation from 2070 that is literally invisible :slight_smile:

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I reckon their next batch of updates will remove the cockpits from their triple 7’s entirely.

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The community has spoken, and the message was clear. Let’s move on to more productive topics folks. Thanks.

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