Don‘t want to convince anyone, just giving another perspective.
And don‘t get me wrong, if I‘d buy today, I‘d go for the MSI X670E Gaming Plus without hesitation. B650E and X670 non-E don‘t make sense because they are not really cheaper than X670E.
B650 if price sensitive or X670E but nothing in between at their price points (or B/X8xx(E) depending on the needs).
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And you made some very valid points about the nature of the different chipsets.
Sorry if my post came off as confrontative in any way.
I think we’re on the same page here.
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Not at all 
Hope the same is for my posts 
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This is the entire reason I’m not currently flying. I think NVIDIA and AMD are so focussed on supplying the bottomless AI market first.
I sold my Xbox in December after 2024 launched, with a plan to build a PC… held up by GPU prices and general shortages of the parts I go looking for.
At this point I’m just focused on building a home rig. I found a good car seat to build around - which at this point is more rewarding for me than the beta testing. Happy to be missing this cycle. I just hope improvment in GPU supply and pricing will coincide with improvement in MSFS 2024 itself.
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I am choosing between 9800X3D and 9950X3D. If money is not a problem, which will give me more FPS with RTX5090?
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Very little difference between them, I’ve recently bought the 9800X3D, but could’ve gone with the 9950X3D.
Unless you do a lot of heavy productivity work, the 9950X3D is overkill, plus you may have issues with core parking (although much better than the 7 series) and you have to use the Xbox Game Bar.
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Maybe read this extensive test by Gamers Nexus.
They concluded the same:
“If you have the funds and are looking to build a purely gaming computer, we think you should scale it down and go for a 9800X3D. It’s just not that big of a difference as the 9800X3D often trades places with the 9950X3D and you save some money.”
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For pure gaming, Ryzen 7 9800X3D is the king of gaming - its 3D V-Cache will deliver equal or even higher FPS with an RTX 5090 and it offers a superior price-to-performance ratio.
If you also need heavy multi-threaded performance for professional applications, rendering or other compute-intensive tasks, then 9950X3D would be the better choice.
In March 2025, I wrote:
I have Ryzen 7 9800X3D and I’m not even considering switching to the 9950X3D. The 9800X3D is so good that I’m waiting for its true successor, which the 9950X3D definitely isn’t.
I’m glad to see that Gamers Nexus shares my opinion - it reassures me that sticking with the 9800X3D was the right choice.
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I had a long shopping / wish list of parts for a PC / home cockpit build, and finally pulled the trigger a couple of weeks ago by ordering the CPU first.
There was no retail stock of either 9950X3D or 9800X3D, so just to see, I went to the AMD website and sure enough they have a web store, so I impulsively ordered the 9950X3D (before I fully understood how it differed from the 9800) … lucky for me, they botched the shipping and my order got cancelled and refunded.
I’m glad because the 9800X3D was back in stock at a retailer so I ordered that instead - saving some money. Still no GPU…
Has anyone tried to run MSFS without a GPU, just using whatever video processing is on the CPU and the motherboard’s HDMI out port? Or is that fast way to melt it 
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It’ll play on a 9800X3D, but only at low graphics settings and resolution. Enough to pass the time while waiting on a proper GPU but don’t expect miracles. Or frame rates much above 15-20, even with low settings.
Actually heading up to MC today, more than likely coming home with a 7800x3d or 9800x3d. All depends on motherboard pricing. Will be paired with a 5080.
Looking forward to moving on from the i9 14900KF and get some better flight experiences!
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As an 80yr old, who is getting left behind sometimes with the speed of advancing tech, this is a great thread even though there is a fair chunk of it that I still don’t fully understand. At the moment I’m sticking with 2020 and my rig works just fine but I do have an eye for the future so - listen and learn!