BeyondATC

This is what I’m expecting as well. Crossing my fingers it will be good.

No doubt actors union Equity will be looking at this, making sure their members aren’t getting ripped off. One or two voices is fine but 100 different?
Unless someone has signed agreements.
There, I’ve gone and borked it now!!!

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Developers havnt decided of the payment model, but there is for 100% sure not gonna be a unlimited use of the software as its simply not possible with the running costs.

One model they are now considering is a model where you will have like 100-400 hours of ATC voice time (not simulator time) is included in base price, and you can buy package of hours - for almost cost price. However if 100-400 hours in ATC voice time included in base this will be “unlimited” or last for years for many users.

This would be bad, very bad to be honest.

No VFR support = no buy!

Pretty simple.

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Dont worry, this product is not finished yet -their plan is to ship with VFR, developers has confirmed. In any case its not shipped with VFR they have confirmed its on their todo list after IFR.

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VFR support is confirmed and is planned to be completed before product release.

The pricing model the dev is considering right now is more of a “pay as you go” model. What ThaLG said above is what the current thinking is.

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Won’t AI powered ATC be a core feature of MSFS 2024? Or do I remember that incorrectly?

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I wonder the same thing about MSFS 2020.

I think I would be ok with that. It looks like they are using Amazon AWS Polly, which cost price is $4 per 1 million of characters output (so about 6 readings of the play Hamlet, or about 24 hours output). That’s a lot of ATC.

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If it is, I hope it allows for more than 10 minutes of dialogue before it gets swamped with AI traffic and cuts off. I’ve been using offline ATC for long, I’ve forgotton about the Azure voices.

Looks amazing, although the angry controller would stress me out. I’d opt for a more forgiving and helpful controller if possible.

I’ve wondered if that is why the default MSFS ATC is so bland with the Azure voices.

AI ATC could be a wonderful showcase for Azure Cognitive services but it’s only scratching the surface with the current implementation.

Those are all great. Runway selection for uncontrolled airports would be nice too, so that taxi ribbons would work.

I could also see expansion to co-pilot actions such as being able to call for flaps, saying “your controls/my controls”, etc.

I would not like having to do a readback for some of those taxi instructions.

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Looks good, but as others have said I’d like to hear it with a sky full of planes. And I wonder about performance with other apps (like FSLTL, etc) or on slower PCs. Also, did I read correctly that there might be a repeated charge for the app based upon usage? I’d much rather pay one fee up front and be done with it, so I hope that’s not the case. And on a totally unrelated comment, the guy sounds like James Woods. Just thought I’d toss that in lol.

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One time charge might not be feasible given the heavy cloud compute nature of the service. Microsoft can get away with it but that’s tough for a 3rd party dev.

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Will it support LittleNavMap or will Simbrief be mandatory?

Good question, I think it just has support for Simbrief. The developers seem to looking for an easy install and adding a Simbrief requirement would probably complicate things for sales.

I also. Wonder if it used MSFS plans, or only simbrief. Then that would be a pass for me too.

From reading discord it seems to be simbrief only at the moment, but I hope this will be extended after launch. There’s only so much can be delivered in V1 of a product or else it would never be released.

If you ask me, it seems a bit backward that developers release addons that dont support base sim functionality.

Its rather like buying a sound bar that will only work with Vizio TV’s. All they are doing , is hurting themselves and limiting sales. Im out if this is true.