At 4K all benchmarks I have seen show little to no benefit between the newer CPU’s, and new high end GPUs, like maybe a 3 or 4 fps difference across platforms in some cases with MSFS. 1440p seems to be the sweet spot where an upgrade will be worthwhile with an RTX 3080/3070 or the new Radeon equivalents, which is why I upgraded from a 3600X to a 5600X (and will get something back from selling the 3600X) as I wait for a Radeon RX 6800 XT. With 4K you are doing well to maintain 50-60fps. With 1440p hopefully I will sit above 60fps, which is my monitors refresh rate and will do for me with my aging eyesight.
1080p shows the biggest gains, but it makes little sense to spend big on a high end GPU for that resolution without also buying a new monitor.
Main reason why benchmarking channels use 1080P, is that this will show the differences between the CPU’s, since otherwise the sim is going to be mostly GPU limited.
Nah i don’t think MSFS runs on a modified Forza engine. It’s an Asobo in-house engine not based on Forza. Remember also, in a sim like MSFS a 5% bump in FPS won’t equal much in terms of actual FPS
That’s basically it. The better CPU will only help you if you’re CPU bound. But then again, Asobo said there will be improvements in the upcoming patch for people who are CPU bound, probably by reducing load of the MainThread and distributing it.
Basically currently the CPU limitation is mainly based on the raw single core performance since more cores basically don’t improve the situation by a lot (more than 4 cores seem to be basically useless at the moment).
This is why you see almost no difference between the various CPUs of the same generation.
The Ryzen 5000 brings better raw single core performance and thus MSFS benefits if you’re CPU bound.
Anyway, these benchmarks will probably look different in a few weeks again, so if you’re now CPU bound, you might end up GPU bound again and investing money into a GPU might be the better price/performance option.
To not having iGPU this CPUs is a big fail and a no option to me, that stole performance and fps from the GPU having a second monitor for other things and programs etc…, hope they solve that “bug-fault” in the near future.
Been playing with single and duel monitor a lot, I see no performance difference with single or dual monitor on and both are connected to my 5700xt gpu…not only in msfs2020, no difference on other games as well. btw, I dont think you can connect your igpu and dgpu to different monitors and have both display output at the same time…if you install a dgpu, your igpu will stop output signal to monitor…
Yes, you can, W10 manage that very well, you have to choose in BIOS both graphics, and try how W10 manages better if in BIOS the iGPU first or GPU, or is the same, then in W10 in screen options you can manage them and choose which is the first monitor, position etc. etc…
Try with the two monitors and only move the mice arrow or grab one window and move them in circles and do it when the card is full in 100% in load, and observe if there is difference or not…
No difference…especially Im using a 1080p 240hz display and I play many competitive shooter games. I am very sensitivive to any input lag and stutters, but I find no difference with 1 or 2 monitor running at the same time. But my second monitor usually has no window open when gaming, I used it only for the ATC and camera windows in msfs2020. One of my friend does have perfoemance issue with dual monitor, but it was caused by him playing videos on web browser while gaming. Disable the hardware acceleration in web broswer solved that issue.
Well, yes, if is very light is almost nothing the impact, but browsing like me now, and Neofly, and in a future Navigraph, or Taskmanager with performance and the fans and water cooling performance etc. may have impact some times or momments more or less. For me iGPU is a must, I was decidet to buy a 5x00 but without iGPU by the moment nop.
Well, yes, if it is very light is almost nothing the impact, but browsing like me now, and Neofly, and in a future Navigraph, or Taskmanager with performance and the fans and water cooling performance etc. may have impact some times or momments more or less. For me iGPU is a must, I was decidet to buy a 5x00 but without iGPU by the moment nop.
That doesn’t make sense at all. If having a browser tab and 1 or 2 external apps brings your GPU noticeably down in performance, it might be time for a new graphics card.
I don’t buy that one bit. The integrated graphics in the Intel chips are so basic that just running another monitor would have barely a measurable impact on AIC GPU performance.
This is a very specific issue fps has never been my main concern on flight simulator. The biggest issue is the stutters and the spikes around big airports and cities like new york tokyo etc. Since i am a student pilot i would like to practice on c172 g1000 and that g1000 screen is a big problem in the sim. Having 70 or 40 on another plane above 4000 feet is not important for me.
I want to see all those huge cities and airports on my g1000 without any stutter and spikes and i believe that this is only possible with a better optimisation and maybe dx12
I am only using my computer for sim and i wont be paying huge amounts of money to hardware for such small but irritating issue.
I was using game pass for the sim and it seems until they solve this i wont be paying for the membership and to purchase the whole game either.
Only grabbing a Word window and moving it in the screen the workload of an 2080ti grows to a 20% in a 1440p monitor, even only the mouse arrow can produce a workload of 10%.
I want an iGPU and I respect you if you do not want and you don´t need it.
did you check out the GPU’s clock frequency while checking this? it might well be that it’s at 20%, but only running at a fraction of the maximum clock speed.
For me (Radeon RX5700XT) the GPU doesn’t clock up to full 2GHz unless in a 3D application. So 20% use on 200-300MHz for example.
I would be very surprised to see a GPU having to work at 20% capacity at full clocks for a single Word window. Maybe you’re drawing the wrong conclusion from incomplete information.
But hey, if your mind has been made up, then that’s fine too
I want an iGPU, less consumption if you use it for basic stuffs if you want, if the GPU fail you still have the iGPU meanwhile, you can disable it in BIOS like you do not have it, the difference of price from a non iGPU is ridiculous and deserve to have it, there is without doubt an discharge of work of the GPU absolutely undoubtedly if want only a power point or something more fps hungry, is easy to understand, do not be a sectarian fanatic with the mind closed, mostly are advantages.
If you do not want it, I respect you, and yes medium overclock, but at full there is an impact in the GPU measured maybe in an 10%, ¿5%?, that matter to me, if you are happy so, well for all you.
For weeks now I was swaying between the cheaper (and more importantly readily available) 3700X and 5600X, then even pondering about the super expensive 5800X.
But I think this is the discussion that made me make up my mind, it’s 5600X all the way. Thanks guys!
Usually taking off and landing at KLAX using the TBM in cockpit view in 1440p ultrawide results around 28-32fps. Now its steady at 44-45fps with max cpu usage around 30%
