Blacksquare Turbine Duke in 2024?

Thanks to the community for recommending the truly excellent A2A Comanche. I love that aircraft.

Unfortunately, my suicidal winter ferry flight from the UK to Miami across the northern route, in such a totatally unsuitable aircraft ended pretty much as I suspected it would. I expected it to end over the ocean, but in reality it ended in a badly iced up comanche, force landing in a deep snowfield at the bottom of an Icelandic Fjord.
Damage to airframe minimal due to the wheels up landing in deep snow. Prop is destroyed and engine has a broken crankshaft.
It is up on jacks getting repaired in the hanger at Icelandic Air Services and will be ready sometime during the summer, when the flight will resume.

Meantime, I am looking for a ride in a more suitable aircraft. I have an offer from a broker in Fort Lauderdale to ferry a Beech turbo duke from Florida to Athens Greece.
Of course, the new owner has had a new interior fitted and does not want it disturbed by the fitment of ferry tanks, so going via the Azores is out. It will have to be the greenland iceland route yet again, in real time weather.

So enter the turbine duke.

1400 miles range. Plenty of reserve for unexpected headwinds.
Ceiling of 28,000ft with pressurised cabin to get above 90% of the weather.
Weather radar so I do not encounter unexpected snowstorms again.
Rated to fly in icing conditions.
Twin PT6s, the most reliable turbine ever.
300mph cruise.
Little brother of the beech king air I flew extensively, way back in fsx days.
And as with the Comanche, realistic flight characteristics. I do not bother with the stock aircraft. Coming from DCS, I am used to paying for the best experience.

Does the community think it is a good fit for my purpose, I want a small sporty aircraft, rather than the blacksquare king air 350 steam gauge version.

Also, does it work in fs2024?

Thanks

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I don’t know if you can install it into MSFS2024 yet but mine, copied over from 2020, both work perfectly.

I copied both the Turbine Duke and the Piston variants, strangely only the Turbine one shows up anywhere in MSFS 2024. However, it did seem to work, at least until the sim CTD’s again. :neutral_face:

Thanks guys. I will see if it will download, unpack the file and place it in the community folder manually.

Go to ā€˜Configure’. Both variants should be there.

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Well. No dice. It seems that just flight only sends you the installer, not the file that you can unzip and install manually.

That seems a bit daft to me. Guess I have to wait for just flight to get their act together and make a 2024 compatible installer.

Did not have this problem with the Comanche, nor the various bits of ini builds scenery I have downloaded for 2024.

Disappointing but entirely my fault for surmising just flight to work the same.

I guess I have a Turbine duke, also sat in a hanger getting some maintenance,

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I’m with you on this.

Give me a ZIP or RAR file. I know what to do with it, and I’ll check for updates myself, thank you very much…

Can you tell I dislike installers? Sometimes we don’t get a choice.

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Joining the choir of hating installers, but I think Just Flight does something DRM-esque… not bad DRM exactly, but they do some license validation which is why some of their addons show an invalid license for people who tried to copy/paste from FS2020 to FS2024.

I should probably make a separate micro-rant thread about this, and I know I won’t change some devs minds, but every dev I know who uses an installer seems to deal with far more user confusion than those who don’t. Flysimware’s installers are overkill and confusing and make things harder especially for people who know what they are doing, Just Flight’s installers are honestly fine, but prevent legit paid users from trying things out in FS2024 (something they might honestly prefer while they iron out bugs?) and don’t get me started on Pilot Experience Sim who has such an atrocious installer that I don’t even fly their Maule anymore due to how many times I’ve had to follow confusing instructions (in French, no less) just to get the addon to work. /rant

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Both FS2020 and FS2024 are in the same Xbox Game Library.
Are they going to do DRM checks and require separate purchases for Standard, Deluxe, Premium Deluke, and Aviator installs? Not that they’re going to charge full price for 2020 and 2024, but still…Ugh…

Well Simon at Just Flight answered my email and asked if I wanted a refund, or to wait till the aircraft became FS2024 ready.

Since I do not have FS2020 to use the aircraft in, I have requested a refund, to return at a later date.

So I cannot fault the way Just flight have handled the problem.

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UPDATE ********
IGNORE MY POST.
THE ISSUE HAS BEEN FIXED. APOLOGIES ALL.

The developer of Black Square has stated there is a rounding issue in some formula of the code he uses and you will get bad readings from some instruments.

I would not bother till it is fixed.

Thanks super six. What a great pity. So it seems that Asobos statement that all 2020 addons will work in 2024 was in fact a little disengenuous if they knowingly changed a portion of the code to one incompatible with 2020 products.

What a nightmare for the addon community.

I am not having too many problems with the sim in VR myself, not stuff I cannot work around in any case, but Asobo have not proven themselves as exactly reputable with this launch.

I hope the addon devs do not abandon FS2024, but I would not blame them if they did.

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As far as I am aware this rounding issue was solved with the last MSFS24 update. I’m not seeing it anymore.

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I really Hope so, thanks for letting us know. Lets hope Black Square can get a 2024 patch out soon.

Bought the Turbine Duke a few months back in a Marketplace sale and it’s been transferred over to my 2024 library and is working fine now.
The rounding issue was cured by the pre-Christmas patch.

Can’t wait to get my hands on my TBM but that was a direct purchase so…we wait…
(slight drumming of fingers :upside_down_face:)

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I’ve been eyeing the Duke bundle, but I gather from this thread I’d have to reinstall 2020, install the Duke to that, and then copy it over to 2024? Gross.

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blacksquare is in the process of updating their line to 2024 but considering the systems depth they do there might be a lot of work for them. will be worth it though

I’m late for the party but I have a workaround.

I uninstalled the Msfs20, bought the Duke bundle yesterday and was faced with the problem that the installer did not work because it could not find the file ā€œUserCfg.optā€.
The file also exists in Msfs24 but the installer still refuses to work.

I googled where the ā€œUserCfg.optā€ was stored in Msfs20. For steam this is in: ā€œ%AppData%\Microsoft Flight Simulatorā€. The folder no longer exists after uninstalling.

So I simply created a folder under %AppData%, named it ā€œMicrosoft Flight Simulatorā€ and copied the ā€œUserCfg.optā€ from the 24 folder into it. Done.

The problem is actually easy to fix. The installer only searches for the ā€œUserCfg.optā€ because the installation location is defined here. If you could assign the target yourself, this would not be a problem.
It worked for me and I have fun with all three Duke’s.

Hope it helps.

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Thanks Cpt.

Unfortunately I already bought the turbine duke once, expecting to unzip the file and install it manually, taking full responsibility of the result.

When this was not possible, due to the installer; Just Flight were very understanding and gave me an immediate refund.
I do not want to find myself in a similar situation if I make a pigs ear of your workaround. However I am sure your method will be very valuable to more daring souls.

I guess I need to wait it out.

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Nice, you made my day :slight_smile:

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