Bring back VOR’s of the 80’s

Please create a map addon which contains all VOR’ and such from last century?
They are disappearing from the current maps by means of them being phased out but it’s so much more fun than using gps.

Navigraph cannot due to their setup with the original data provider.

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They will be removed from sim though at the same rate as irl as same nav data source

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VORs aren’t going away. They’re be consolidated. In the event that GPS goes down, VOR, VORTAC and VOR DME (military) are backups and ground based so navigation would still be possible in the event of a GPS outage. There’s VOR by my flight school that is down right now for updates. I’m looking at my sectional and there are plenty of VORs to jump around two.

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It seems to me that the OP request is to keep all the VORs ,actual and of the past, still up and running in the SIM .I am not sure that an Add-on can implement it but it would be nice to have , if feasable. Voted

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Its a SIMULATOR. :grinning:

If one can fly planes that are so old, none are fling anymore, why can’t there be an option to fly those planes back in the time when they did fly, with all the navaids (VORS, markers, NDBs) that were present back in those day, that those old planes used to navigate.

If you like a Mod to make MSFS2020 >>> MSFS 1940

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You can look libraries for a navigation database from around 2000. I think there should be in green internet.

I believe that a simulator must have a function for customizing the gameplay. Like the weather, in the game we can change the weather and simulate flights in terrible weather conditions.

Why is there no function for adding different radio navigation stations? You open the map, you see that there is no VOR beacon near the lovely airport, and you want for example to practice approaching by VOR, or put up a DME beacon to practice the DME arch. And you could put any beacon in any place, give it a frequency, coverage radius, and Morse code. This would be good feature, i think.

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OR, even simpler, you go to an airport that has those things that you want :smirk:

The problem comes, when you are looking for an airport that, say has both Outer & Middle markers still – GOOD LUCK !!

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Just a setting that allows a basic choice of Nav data. Circa 1980, 2000 and current airac cycle. Make your choice before or while selecting a flight and that’s what gets used. Until you change it.

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Yet, two-thirds (967 of them) of VORs in the USA are or will be removed, and those that remain are almost all close to major airports. This remaining VOR network is called the Minimum Operational Network, or MON. When a VOR is removed, it is replaced with a GPS-based intersection and GPS-based airways.

When that is done, flying without GPS (or INS) will be problematic to say the least. There will be areas where you simply will not get any reception of a VOR or NDB.

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The problem is that, as I understand it, many countries are abandoning the old radio navigation. According to the type of NDB beacons. There are fewer and fewer of them. Also with VOR beacons (VOR without DME). Therefore, I observe such a picture. At my favorite airports a year ago there were a lot of radio navigation for fun. Now even controlled zones are disappearing. Therefore, I would still like such a function, to set stations myself.

I’m on the console and I can’t download the old AIRAC cycle.

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It’s mainly to open up the radio freq to other use such as digital tv,radio,

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Thank you for clarifying. I guess I got a little confused with this from the FAA.

23-01-VOR-MON-Program.pdf (faa.gov)

The beauty of aviation, always learning. Thanks again!

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Topic moved out of the wishlist. The wishlist is for MS or Asobo. No 2nd or 3rd party wishes.

EDIT: Altered first post for 1st Party request and moved back into the Wishlist

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Perhaps a temporary solution is to fly in an area of the world where there still are a lot of those radios. Anyone knows where?

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Not in Canada, they are being decommissioned aggressively starting in 2019.

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There is a Mod on FS.TO that lets you have the decommissioned navaids back.

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It’s kind of an all or nothing proposition. As VORs are decommissioned, there are often frequency changes with nearby, remaining VORs in order to clear up frequency congestion and allow expanded service volumes (with fewer VORs). Mixing old and current won’t be a viable option.

But I agree with others that call for a switch or a date activation. There are already several amazing, well-researched mods that incorporate period-accurate navaids.

There are several areas of the world in which airways are disappearing entirely, including some regions of the US. There are usually still navaids to which you can fly direct, but even that is getting sparse with the MON program.

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This is one of the reasons I keep FS9 on a seperate old computer than runs only Windows XP and FS9. On occasion I still love to fly the vintage B727-100/200, the DC9-30 as well as the DC10 and L1011. All using VOR for navigation. I still have my copy of charts that some place was selling way back then. I still love this old way of flying.

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More “fun” than GPS? Well, maybe… for some…

There are a number of airports that still have VOR and/or NDB approaches which might be considered “fun”. I’ve tried a couple of VOR/DME approaches in lousy weather and they were very challenging for me using only VOR/DME equipment. NDB approaches haven’t been particularly easy for me as well especially when there are strong winds.

Even though there are fewer VORs, pilots should know how to navigate using them without GPS in the event of GPS jamming, spoofing, or failure.

I think the most challenging issue to bring back the VORs of the 80s or 70s or any other time period is the availability of historical charts especially for VFR pilots not using any AIRAC-capable equipment.

IMHO MSFS should focus on keeping MSFS current which is a difficult task trying to synchronize current navigation data and current satellite maps.

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