I think I’m about done for now, ladies and gents.
Despite my best intentions, I spent some good amount of time trying to get VR at least usable again. After a week or so, it was at the point where I thought “Okay, this is good enough for now”. (This after countless hours spent tweaking over the past few months).
World Update 5 drops. VR is again a stuttering mess. Restart PC, try back in pancake mode. Frame rates are okay, but a definite stutter despite that. In areas not touched by the update. Not really flyable. Too noticeable. Wasn’t there prior to update.
Life’s too short. All I want to do is fly my virtual planes. I’m going back to my smooth as silk, no hassle sims for a while.
I’ll check back on next update to see if performance issues sorted but for now I’d rather just go enjoy myself than endure this.
It’d be fair enough if these were optional, beta updates, but they’re not. It’s an odd situation - we’re forced into accepting what’s clearly not always fit-for-release versions. This is totally acceptable during the beta phase and is to be expected. And totally unacceptable for release software.
Sorry to hear you’ve been having problems. Mine on the other hand has been working even better since this latest update. What headset / system do you have?
One thing I would suggest is that go go into flight sim’s graphics settings… and reduce all the sliders to low / off on for PC (not VR)
This certainly makes a difference when you first launch VR mode & I think it also helps from then on too.
Of course if you use non-vr regularly too, then you may not want to do this, but it does improve VR performance.
its not unwise to wait it out a few updates, they said after the dx12 update they wil do more optimisations.
the joys of vr…glad i dont use it, sim runs smooth, mostly.
Mine runs pretty well in VR. I certainly wouldn’t go back to using my three 43” screens!
Once you’ve used VR you never go back & I’m sure the OP would agree. Just a shame it’s not working for him at the moment.
Yes, it’s the desire for VR that’s mostly driving me away. It’s pretty much flawless for me in “other sims” and with my various add-ons it’s not dissimilar in appearance. 2020 does have its virtues, however, so I will definitely revisit next update. And probably the one after that, and the one after that…
I know I bang this drum but if your Windows system was built from old media, it is possible there is cruft built in that trips up FS2020.
Anyone who is already planning a rebuild might consider doing it from a fresh windows.iso file downloaded from Microsoft. I rebuilt one with old media and was still stuttering with new Nvidia drivers. Rebuilt from fresh media and my system is now solid (for now).
When configuring the build from fresh media there were lots of new options in the security and privacy Windows menus. It seems that Windows installs can be different depending on the install media versions. There have been about 12 since Windows 10 hit. Should also note one guy was able to get FS2020 running smooth with a repair using new Windows media.
Not advising anyone to rebuild. Just saying if anyone is planning to rebuild, use the latest windows.iso from Microsoft.
You make a good point. I did a full Windows install recently. Prior to this it wouldn’t let me download all the Windows updates. Anyway, the other week after wiping everything I downloaded & reinstalled Windows 10 - followed by all the updates (error free) & flight sim is working better than ever, especially after this latest update
Its suprising how many people never bother doing this. I know i am due for a full clean out and reinstall as I have not done so since I first built my machine in 2017, but i am getting some issues, including HDR and other slowdowns.
Also, remember to “Secure Erase” an SSD before reinstalling, or you may have some further slowdowns.
Back in the pre Windows 10 days of Windows, it was simply part of the lore that for best performance you always did at least a yearly nuke and pave. I’m not sure why that fell off the radar but Windows (pre-10) had been notorious for collecting junk in the registry and in various directories and all that junk slowed Windows down significantly and caused lots of weird instabilities.
It’s a huge PITA, though, depending on how people use their systems. Reinstalling and authorizing software, restoring files, and so on. Another guy told me about Macrium Reflect (free version but I paid after seeing how useful). I had the storage to back Windows all up (it compresses like crazy so file backups don’t take much room). But still, huge pain.
Thanks for the secure erase tip. I just let the Windows install process reinitialize my C drive, though after blowing away the existing partitions but so far no issues.
May I ask - why not (while waiting for VR to be fixed) enjoy the sim in regular mode on your monitor? Or does it give you so many problems in non-VR also?
I remember those times. Vista was a hell. Win 7 was good. Win10 has been the best OS for me, never had to reinstall because of problems. Only just did a fresh install because I got a new SSD.
Macrium Reflect is excellent, I like its feature where you can mount the image and browse it in file explorer.
I do however always do a factory fresh install using Media Creation Tool , I use Macrium just as a backup never to restore an image as I prefer fresh install.
One way to get past all the pain you mention is to keep all progams, games , documents, music etc on a different drive. When I installed the SSD with fresh Windows I just installed Steam on the SSD, pointed it to the existing Steam folder on the 2nd drive & it verified all games.
Browsed Macrium image to whack all the documents on the 2nd drive too and thats it was up and running in no time.
Give it a few days. For me after each update I get stutters and performance issues, it seems they are related to the network traffic after each update (people check out new places, fly a lot in general). it is not about my internet connection, but MS servers. After a few days, everything goes back to normal. It happens every single time after the update.
Well, it’s not perfect but looks so good. VR is meh but still immersive. I wouldn’t be able to do VR more than an hour anyways so I do half hour departures and half hour for descent and landing plus taxi to gates. All this at 30fps in VR. Some stuttering here and there but it’s ok. MSFS is visually the best sim out there and with some advanced mods and tweaking it becomes the only option. I could never go back to P3D, X-Plane or FSX, no way. I’d rather live with the bugs hehe.
Can’t wait for the big airliners from PMDG, Quality Wings, FSLabs and Magestic to arrive. We’ll get there. MSFS has only been getting better for me so far.
So sorry to hear your disappointment and it’s totally understandable but if you stay in this community, together we can get Microsoft and Asobo deliver a truly immersive experience for years to come and you can witness this fantastic evolution.
P3d VR became sensational after DX 12 was implemented. Oh hang on MSFS is the new kid on the block and we are asking for DX12 … what a joke LOL
No need to tell everyone. If you’re not wishing to “play”, fine! But you are not as important to annoy everyone with your message. Many people enjoying the sim, don’t ruin it for others with your negativity…
yeah yeah yeah, bye bye, VR is ■■■■ anyway in flightsims, waaaaaay to limiting if using Vatsim/Pilotedge, Go full Homecockpit mode, beats VR any day.
I hope that in one of these updates your experience in VR has improved to the state that you desire. It will be good to hear if that is the case.