C172-G1000 - Rudder cannot be moved during preflight

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ISSUE DESCRIPTION

Description of the issue:
When performing the pre-flight the rudder cannot be moved left/right.

If applicable, which aircraft is experiencing this issue:
Cessna 172 G1000

[PC Only] Did you remove all your community mods/add-ons? If yes, are you still experiencing the issue?
Yes.

FREQUENCY OF ISSUE

How often does this occur for you (Example: Just once, every time on sim load, intermittently)?
100% of the time.

REPRODUCTION STEPS

Please list clear steps you took in order to help our test team reproduce the same issue:

  1. Start cold and dark free flight with C172 G1000
  2. Walk to the rudder
  3. Try to move it and find it does not move.

YOUR SETTINGS

If the issue still occurs with no mods and add-ons, please continue to report your issue. If not, please move this post to the User Support Hub.

What peripherals are you using, if relevant:
Logitec mouse. The ailerons and elevator move perfectly fine with the mouse.

[PC Only] Are you using Developer Mode or have you made any changes to it?
No

[PC, MSFS 2020 Only] Are you using DX11 or DX12?
N/A

[PC Only] What GPU (Graphics Card) do you use?
Nvidia RTX 4070

[PC Only] What other relevant PC specs can you share?
R7900 CPU / 64GB RAM

MEDIA

N/A

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Do you have the same issue if you follow the OP’s steps to reproduce it?
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Do you have the same issue if you follow the OP’s steps to reproduce it?
• yes

Provide extra information to complete the original description of the issue:
• issue also applies to the C172 Classic, not only the G1000

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Isn’t the rudder directly connected to the nose-wheel? It is very difficult to turn the nose-wheel when the aircraft is stationary. Think of an old car without power steering) so maybe that’s a feature and not a bug, not sure though.

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Good point. I think they are connected but when performing a pre-flight check for GA airplanes, usually you are able to manually move the rudder even if connected to the nose wheel. If you test the C152, the nose wheel is also connected to the rudder pedals and you can move the rudder during pre-flight. For sure a C172 real pilot will provide the right answer.

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You can move the Rudder in a C172 on the ground quite easily, and checking freedom and range of motion is actually part of the Pre-Flight Inspection in Section 4 of the POH.

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Hello,

Pls could somebody tell me what I should expect the bug logging and solving process to be?

I have posted this bug on Jan 4 and the bug is real, unless we are told this is by design. Looking at other users, I see bugs get into Feedback logged and then Bug logged status, but this does not happen with this bug.

There are more bugs related to the C172, but before I spend time on these, I would like to be clear on the process. I do not mind if they are solved next week or next year, but I do like that they are getting looped in the process.
When they are not logged, then I feel I would be wasting my time.

Thanks.

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This also happens with the classic Cessna 172.

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See 3:29 for rudder movement checks during preflight of real 172

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So the reported bug is “correct” and deserved a vote to be logged. I hope it will be corrected.

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Do you have the same issue if you follow the OP’s steps to reproduce it?
• yes

Provide extra information to complete the original description of the issue:
• For C152 and 172, rudder movement is a part of preflight checks. But it’s not possible to move them in the sim.

If relevant, provide additional screenshots/video:
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Figures, in 2024 you cant move the rudder in pre-flight but a 0.25kt, 1 deg crosswind component results in full deflection when taxing (that is obviously a slight exaggeration of degree but not the core flight model problem).

To be fair, I don’t want to be too demanding on Asobo, they’ve only had 4+ years to fix it (or even make it better)

Makes me sadly glad I still have not purchased 2020.4 :roll_eyes:

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Do you have the same issue if you follow the OP’s steps to reproduce it?

  • Yes

Provide extra information to complete the original description of the issue:

  • MS Store 1.5.3.0
  • Yes with Cessna 172 G1000 with Official 01 livery
  • Yes with Cessna 172 Basic (i.e., steam gauge) with Official 01 livery

If relevant, provide additional screenshots/video:

  • I’m only going to show one video because the videos are all going to look the same.
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Cherokees don’t like having their rudder moved during preflight, but you can move it in the 172.

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LOL Usually, we don’t mess with the rudder too much during the preflight inspection—because we’re afraid of bending the “rudder’s trim tab” that the mechanic has already expertly bent for us. And trust me, you don’t want to deal with an angry mechanic! :rofl: