Can FBW A32NX reach PMDG 737 fidelity?

I absolutely think they will get there, not just for the 320 but the 380 and hopefully others too. It’ll be years, but the journey is also fun.

I prefer this over having to wait 3 years to hopefully get some screenshots for the payware stuff. I like reading release notes, discord etc. and then trying out new features. It’s like being a test pilot, you get to know the airplane intimately by testing and focusing on a specific change.

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sure it can. They have no time/money pressure, they can reach every level they want…

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I don’t have the 737 because it’s expensive so I am extremely grateful to the FBW team for what they’ve created. For me, flight simulation is all about immersion and I can tell FBW appreciates that. Just from videos I’ve watched of the PMDG I can tell I like the “feel” of the FBW better, the textures and especially the sounds!
Reading dev comments on the FBW discord you can see this team is passionate, and the fact they’re doing it for free shows just how passionate they are, something a company with deadlines and profits can’t achieve.
I know the guys that like to know they’re pushing every button a real airline pilot would won’t agree with me, but I just want to feel like I’m flying an airliner. That’s why I love MSFS and the FBW, it looks and feels like how I dream flying those planes to be.

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Strange response aside, respectfully I think you should get some experience in software development and look at our open source code before making claims like those that are false. Our aircraft simulation code is not based on the default A320 and has not been for a very long time.

Our systems simulation is written from scratch using no default components. It’s based on our own research into the aircraft. Our FMS is entirely independent from the sim and the LNAV path generation is our own algorithm, based on almost a year of research (which involved testing in real planes and simulators). Every single display except the MCDU framework is 100% written from scratch and we are now at the point of adding features optimizing performance, not rewriting stock code.

As I mentioned a few messages above, we simulate things that no one else simulates. Do you think we would be doing that if we were still editing default scripts ?

The sinlge thing in our aircraft still from the defaul that is important to its functioning is the 3D models, getting replaced as well.

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We are aware this is a sticking point in the comparison, and this is definitely being worked on! We already got our v2 PFD merged recently which has improved things, but a v2 ND and general optimizations are on the way.

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Anything and everything your collective does is massively appreciated. What you’ve done to this point is exceptional, and we’re all very lucky that you continue to improve on it.

I’m sure I’m not speaking for myself alone when I say we’re all really, properly, grateful!

Cheers :beers:

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A massive THANK YOU to the FBW team, and yes, thinking outside the box is a bonus, instead of building on routine. In addition, by providing frequent updates and improvements of the FBW I have learned a lot about the systems and complexity of the airplane, which I would otherwise not have gained if it was just an “straight out of the box plug and play” airplane.

:+1:

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The FBW A20N is a truly awesome passion project. I particularly love the MDCU server that lets me have the FMC on a tablet. I can’t see myself buying any payware airliner without that. It is a total game changer!!

I think there has been an issue right since the start about non-availability of exact performance numbers for A320 neo variant that FBW team has been working on. I’m not sure if things have changed since I was last told about it but Cost Index feature still doesn’t work probably due to this reason.
Anyway, for a freeware it’s a great addon even as on date and things are only poised to get better with A32NX.

Great supporter of the FBW DEV team, updates sometimes 3 times a day, on experimental/Dev version. Dont think I could have the heart to leave it in the hangar. The Team have almost been there since day one.

Their passion shows, and offering it free. I believe the team will get there, Rome was not built in a day.

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The fbw was for me the first plane I was able to fly and I still fly it every time I am playing. This wonderful progress in the last month and year and everything for free. I bought the pmdg and will buy the fenix but there is no way to leave the fbw. I do not care if it will ever be on study level. It is wonderful to fly if you got less time, some spectacular ideas like the mcdu on a tablet etc. The not so called vnav is working great for me. Thanks fbw team. Because of you the msfs was enjoyable for me the last month.

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Completely agreed. I want my MCDU on a tablet for every plane - PMDG, Fenix etc… I think I would actually fly A32NX over those just for the immersion with this awesome feature…and yes happy to pay for a MCDU to tablet add-on for each plane I buy… come on third party devs, what you waiting for? :slight_smile:

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You may wanna check out aviaworx. They have that for the AS CRJ and the PMDG 737.

If so I wonder how FBW could simulate a complete electrical system, or even a real time physically simulated cargo door that even react to wind :smiley:

I understand the Fenix fanboys are waiting for a superb product, and it certainly will be one! But they often forget that a lot that was shown is already modeled in FBW too, if not better modeled (hydraulics, electrical systems… list will get longer with time).

Try to put the PMDG upside down. Run a gear gravity extension procedure. Conclude :smiley:

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Lol, now I wish this was part of std. testing done by reviewers for every plane. Actually I just wanna see it. Anyone? :grin:

Looking forward for this. Please keep going. Baffles me how PMDG managed to squeeze all this “study level” system into the performance efficiency of a small GA.

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…and the long answer is, today we are way beyond ‘modifying an existing plane’. Yes, we still use parts of the Asobo A320. But actually only the visual model. All systems, flightmodel, textures (cockpit), sounds, etc. are from us.

And btw, you seem to not know much about programming and the structure of MSFS. In theory you can do everything with a default plane. There are no limits (in comparison to making a plane from the scratch, like PMDG did).

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I have the Toliss A319 for xp11. It’s good, reasonable value for money and is reasonably accurate.

But…the FBW A320 is a better aircraft, flies more realistically and the systems accuracy is, in my opinion, superior to that of the Toliss.

The addition of VNav is testament to the team’s brilliance.

The RAF taught me to fly, so I know what flying a large aircraft feels like. The FBW team have achieved a remarkable similarity to that real world experience, especially when flying in VR.

I must also say that the support on the FBW Discord is superb.

Finally, I would suggest that the FBW A320 is about as far away from the MSFS stock A320 as it’s possible to get.

Will the FBW A320 reach PMDG 737 fidelity?

Of course not. Rather, it will EXCEED it.

Thanks to the generous and incredibly skilled FBW team.

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For the record, I am a huge FBW fan. It’s pretty much the only plane I fly. I’m new to MSFS and was really just asking out of curiosity. But I am extremely entertained by the entire FBW project and routinely tell my wife “and it’s free! These guys do it as volunteers.” She’s not impressed but I certainly am. :grinning:

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