Means one player are in 2020 and the other in 2024 and flying together?
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While this hasn’t been officially announced it is unlikely.
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Well … in VATSIM it’s a mix between xplane, p3d and MSFS. Should be no problem to have it native between 20 and 24
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I would expect not. There will be separate coding, world streaming, physics etc it wouldn’t make any sense to make 2024 cross play with 2020
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of course it would make sense! its the same world we are flying in isnt it? so why not? just another excuse for ms/asobo… lame
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No its a whole new world. Its not an add on, its the next version of FS. Is 2020 compatible with FSX? No
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The simple reason why they will not merge the two worlds is: Then people would have less of a reason to buy 2024, and they aren’t making a sequel just so people can stay on 2020.
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I would think it’s possible to some extent because of the claim about almost universal compatibility with current mods and purchases. Even if the physics engine is difference, that shouldn’t matter in multiplayer because it’s only updating a reported aircraft position and such in the current multiplayer already. I seriously doubt when you see other MP aircraft flying that your CPU is doing the flight physics calculations.
Whether or not they do is another question. I get the argument of not doing it to promote 2024 sales, but that could backfire on them as well. If close flying groups instead decide to remain on this version to keep flying with each other, MS could lose out on sales as well.
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I disagree. Given the theme of everything Jorg says, I think, if it were possible to share, they would.
To me, the biggest issue would be the quality of the experience, also very, very important to Jorg. And, given what would be required to get it to work with quality, I don’t believe they would want to put the work required into it. As Seb keeps saying, it would get really “heavy” on resources in 2020.
In 24, they can stream the models required for the shared planes from a database on the server. In 2020, would you be happy with an A320 representing, say, a Phenom 300?
Sharing position and communication information would probably work ok, just like it does on Vatsim. But I don’t think the quality of the experience can be easily handled for many reasons in the 2020 platform.
I’m sorry, what does the price of the product have to do with sharing multi-player environments?
I don’t think this feature would have any effect on a macro scale on the overall sales of 2024. The enhancements discussed so far, and the game play that’s going to be available in the platform, I think, is going to blow 2020 away.
If you’re saying that the cost of the versions of 2024 is going to match the that of 2020, I totally agree.
Depending on a few factors, the Premium version of 2024 will be a day one buy for me. And, personally, I think anyone not doing this is silly. But that’s just silly me. Everyone of course can do what they want.
Holy cow. I thought this was another thread I was replying to and read your post in a TOTALLY different context. 
If they can share online, that would be cool.
They CAN share the world between current and beta versions now, so maybe that is possible now.
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OK, now I’m confused… Do I delete my post or not??? Lollll
Ha! Leave yours. I deserve the public shaming! 
That was a big gaffe!
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Yeah, to me, the multi-player environment in 2020 isn’t even close to my expectations. I’ll take it, and wouldn’t want them to remove it, but, the work it takes to get it working properly is just wayyyyyy too much. And by properly, I am as good as it can get, which, too me, is really broken as is.
2024 has the potential to just work, right out of the box.
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The original announcement said “Same skies, all new Flight Simulator”.
I interpret “same skies” to mean that players will see each other between the two versions. It’s possible to interpret it different ways but I think this interpretation is the most logical.
On the various interviews with Jorg and Seb they’ve made it clear that world enhancements such as photogrammetry will apply to both sims, just that 2024 will see extra elements that 2020 can’t access. Unless they’ve made major breaking changes to the multiplayer messaging there’s unlikely to be serious technical reasons why they couldn’t cooperate. It seems so far that their focus for 2024 is on other areas.
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It was an Xbox presentation. I took it to mean, “Same as PC” this was not a 2020 announcement.
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It used to be that when on a public MSFS beta, beta, and non-beta players could not see each other in MP. I believe that was not the case for the last Beta, not sure about the one before that though.
So it’s quite possible they will find a way for users to see each other. Note that there isn’t any technical reason from an Azure point of view, as far as I can see. Changing your MP server is completely separate from where you get your scenery data from, and should be abstract enough as to be like using Vatsim to make traffic from disparate sims to appear.
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Yes, I did a group flight with a dozen others while I was on the AAU2 xbox beta and it seemed to all work normally.
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If this is their reasoning, they’re wrong. Instead of forcing people to upgrade, what that approach will actually do is force people not to upgrade. I won’t be able to upgrade if my brother, who is a casual/relatively rare player, can only play multiplayer with me if I stick with MSFS 2020 or have two full installations of the sim simultaneously on different versions.
There is no technical reason they can’t do multiplayer between the two as it’s the exact same world and they can already handle players having different scenery within the world (one of you may just levitate on the ground) and having different time of day / weather settings (you just have to switch to the right multiplayer setting).
I will thus be shocked if they choose to try and force upgrades this way because all it will do is persuade many people not to upgrade for a long time or at all.
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