I tried that for 3 airports (Aerosoft EDDF, FlyTampa EHAM and FlightBeam KSFO) and the sim stopped showing „Start” button after loading. What fixed it was deleting the SceneryIndexes - I guess it’s a pretty important step when replacing one airport with the other, no matter if it’s Asobo or anything else!
I explained on that Stream that I asked that to Asobo, and Eric confirmed few hours later you will be able to download any package locally.
Was not available on release but is coming soon.
You can see his answer here: Will it be an optional for our customers to download an aircraft locally? - Aircraft - MSFS DevSupport
They are been transparent and helpful, no conspiracy theories here really, is coming and he believes very soon.
So patience, the sim is working great for me now, they clearly working hard to clear all issues server side.
Best,
Raul
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That is all very good, but besides downloading (which I welcome, having the strain on my M.2 SSD instead of MS cloud infrastructure), I need to be able do deactivate / delete individual scenery packages!
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Yep, I think we can mostly all appreciate lots of people are working very hard with great expense to their personal life, but the forced push of incompatible, certainly in cases of sim breaking, FS2020 purchases with no disable option is a poor state of play for a full product release in my opinion. And I’m sure Asobo and MS agree but it would be nice to see an acknowledgement and a hotfix now we’re a week on. Maybe there’s concerns in withholding them even temporarily though due to the promises of FS2020 marketplace content being available in the new sim.
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That is coming too, read the link I posted, Umberto asked that question.
One important note on your point thought, if you download the region you will be at, and you are not going to others.. you don’t need to de-activate them to avoid any strain.. if you are not traveling into a zone, it doesn’t get streamed.. therefore your drive is not being hit by anything.
Same applies to any package that you are not using.. They get indexed upon load, but this doesn’t mean it is downloading anything until you are really using them.
So your worrying about something that is not there, unless you traveling into zones they will not stream down, you can also increase your local cache, this way if you are someone traveling with re-occurring patterns (lets say NZ, Caribbean, etc.) these will be stored in your local cache and not re-downloading every time.
The system is just different, just because something is ENABLED it doesn’t mean it is in USE (as writing to your disk).
For example, one of my planes purchased in MSFS 2020, they will get transferred to current customers for FREE. So let’s take FSR500 as an example, if you own it, it will get indexed for you on load.. however this doesn’t mean it is being streamed down to your drive immediately.. it remains still in cloud.. it is not until you select the airplane for a flight.. or look to pick a livery for it to go into a flight when the download process starts and it will get streamed down to your local cache.
Same applies for any airport you buy or coming from MSFS 2020. So don’t think because your 2020 products are there, it means they are killing your drive, they are not, they are there just waiting for you to either select a plane to fly or you load / flight into one of these airports you OWN before anything downloads.
So disabling will be available in the future, but in reality is not necessary because the way the system works.
Hope this help you guys to understand better and realise how streaming works. In any case, you will be able to download in the future any packages, airplanes and regions, and if this is something really that important to you, you could theoretically download the hole lot on your drives if you have the capacity.. the power will be in your hands.
Choice will be yours, but I wouldn’t do it.. makes no sense..
Best,
Raul
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try this for the time being:
Yeah I’ve done that, thanks though. Doesn’t sort the long activating packages load time though unfortunately.
At least though the developers have now acknowledged the issues on the sim zendesk known issues page and suggested “days” as a fix time.
Again, unsure of that means activating packages will be shorter which I should imagine is a server side efficiency to be found.
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From what I’ve heard from someone on Xbox who simply switched to a fresh account (one without any 2020 history)… the load time was nearly halved and getting into a flight was nearly instant. There seems to be a tangible benefit to a fully vanilla 2024 experience.
So, moreso than just downloading, stopping streaming for simply 2020 stuff will get me bought back into 24. I just hope its a library option, not only if/when the market is online.
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Thanks for the detailed explanations, Raul - much appreciated. We all need to get a better understanding of the new sim…
On the other hand, I really try to worry only about things that are real. In my case that concerns my homebase airport EDDM. It existed twice in FS2020, made first by SimWings and then by Asobo. In FS2020 I deleted Asobo’s version and happily used the SimWings version.
Not in FS2024. The two are fused together, blocking taxiway exits and generally not looking very pretty. On top, I now usually CTD before I arrive at the gates in EDDM. So yes, I am discussing something that is very much real (as far as that can be said about a sim 
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yes, this is covered on my initial link where Umberto is explaining this situation to Eric and they are addressing this too..
Best,
R.
Thanks a lot for this workaround. I only have City/World updates streamed from my MSFS2020 (strangely even the ones not installed), but to my understanding MSFS 2024 should have them integrated, shouldn´t it? And another question: what would happen in the future if I uninstall MSFS2020 and reinstall MSFS2024? I guess there would be no streamed content?
I’m kind of surprised any base 2020 content is being streamed to 2024 but that’s neither here nor there.
As to uninstalling that won’t help, it’s just streaming whatever your XBox user ID is entitled for in the marketplace.
I´m now playing Standard Edition with a GamePass monthly subscription, and as it plays reasonably fine, my plan is to uninstall MSFS2020 and then buy it at Steam. I guess that leads to a clean installation, without streamed packages?
I would think not as in-game-marketplace is still Microsoft, not Steam. But I own MS Store and can’t say for certain.
It may or may not work. I know before release they mentioned they fixed the Steam vs MS Store when transitioning from 2020 > 2024. Which was requested for a while and is great overall! But for this specific predicament, it may not be beneficial if the transfer does indeed work.
Would be interested to hear from someone who actually did that transition to steam, or vise versa, and see if that transfer actually worked.
I transitioned with 2024 from steam to MS Store (game pass) at the weekend. Always had MSFS2020 on steam since launch. Complete uninstall and manual clearance of all the folders before installed from ms store…
…still linked, all the MSFS2020 stuff I bought from the marketplace over the years is still there in the MS Store MSFS2024 version. The only difference is inexplicably load time halved (maybe MS Store users get priority on servers?) still an unhelpful 30 minutes but better than an hour.
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You made my day, thank you so much!
While it’s true that things may not be loaded until you visit them, this doesn’t fix an issue like the old Zinertek Airport Textures being forced down with no option to disable because those affect ALL airports that don’t use their own textures. Thankfully the workaround of a blank folder in Community fixes that for now.
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