One could replicate the measurements following the next guidelines:
Clear weather above the Mediterranean sea
Place aircraft to the correct altitude via slew mode commands and check OAT
Use AP ALT and HDG or trim manually
Set PROP and Power
Adjust Mixture to find max EGT, LOP (lean of peek) and ROP (rich of peak) whichever you would like to test
LOP = max EGT - 50C on the lean side
ROP = max EGT - 50C on the rich side
Wait for stabilization
Register fuel flow (FF), HP% and IAS
I donât have a high end PC, but in these circumstances I got a constant 80FPS frame rate. Donât forget to periodically switch fuel tanks during the tests.
The configurations in the table are typical ones from the aircraft documentation. I did not include the relevant official (real life) parameters, but the simulated performance parameters of the old Ovation version were quite close to those. The new ones are representing much lower power at each altitude and mode.
I opened a ticket with this informatin at Carenado. I also mentioned the relevant community mod, though I had not tested that. Many said that it is closer to real life performance than that of the new official version.
Thanks. The old one is closer to reality as mentioned by earlier reviews & real life pilots who flew the Ovation. With the latest official version, it is slower than Piper Arrow, which is disappointing.
I use the mod, and much better, it is close to the original by feel. I have not measured the parameters.
You are lucky at least they replied hahaha. I love this Ovation, my best GA plane next to Piper Arrow.
But the Carenado after sales is the worst, I remember it took ages before they fixed many problems on the early days of release to MSFS. Still, I love this Ovation with the mod.
How exactly the mod should be installed? Does it go to its own (separate) folder within the Community flder or should I merge it with the aircraft itself? If separate, how the system will link it to the aircraft?
On the other hand, it is not clear for me if the mod is only modifying the performance, or are there other fixes/changes as well? Is it compatible with v1.2.2?
A lot to learn and get up to speed with, especially for those new to MSFS .
I general, the difference between an UPDATE and a MOD is:
UPDATE: Replaces all the existing folder, and sub folder for that plane, typically in the Community folder. ie DELETE (or backup old Version - the install New Version)
MOD: Is an additional install into the root of the Community folder, and the original plane remains intact. The Plane Loads into Virtual memory , and the the MOD load, overwriting the original plane in MSFS virtual Memory.
IF you are using say ADDON LINKER, then you can arrange these items in a more logical, folder tree structure - ie NOT everything in the same folder.
Ie you can have a folder for aircraft, and sub folder for Carenado, and a further sub folder for the Mooney, and then put both the Plane and the MOD folders, in that Mooney folder, to keep them associated with each other (in your mind).
In the specific case of a Carenado Plane, that is most likely DRM protected, and downloaded from the MS store, the Plane will get installed in OFFICIAL, and the MOD will get installed in COMMUNITY
Donât have the M20R yet, only have the C337 on Xbox. But looking to see if the EDB 800 CHT/EGT is broken on other CA products before I gat anymore.
I have contacted MS/Asobo support and are saying itâs Caâs issue. And Ca are saying (after much contacting and no come bake) that itâs Asoboâs.
Yes it dose want to tip over if not careful, donât think that would be like is irl, no idea of sim or aircraft package though.
Other than the 337 and any of the Local Legends that they may have made I haven not got any other Ca products. As only just came to MSFS as SU9 dropped and had heard not great things about Caâs attitude to supporting there items after a short time.
Hopping the coming WASM implementation on Xbox will allow JustFlight to release there Pipersâs.
Well, I just went through the trouble of doing a flight and recording a few âbugsâ that Iâve found along the way⊠only to realize that, after I landed, that Radeon ReLive created a 262 byte file that does â â â â all.
AnywayâŠ
Flew the Mooney at 15000 feet, -5°.
I couldnt get MP higher than 17, airspeed 120ish⊠fuel flow was 10. This doesnt seem right, at all. very disappointed.
Next bug: when turning the knob on the airspeed indicator to set the air temp, the thing start to jump from the XX band to the X band, back and forth, and you can never set the proper temperature.
Next bug: dash lights⊠as soon as you turn the knob, the lights are either ON or OFF⊠they no longer DIM.
Can anyone confirm my findings and submit to Carenado?
At 15,000 ft, there will be quite the drop in indicated airspeed. If itâs 120 knots indicated, thatâs equivalent to ~156 knots true airspeed.
Is it a turbo engine? How does the MP compare to charts in the manual? At 15,000 feet, the air is pretty thin up there without a turbo or super charger. According to the POH, about 17 is about all youâll see at 15,000 ft. So thatâs correct.
Depending on Outside temperature, max speed will be between 184 knots True at -25C to 182 or so at 20C at full throttle.
Right, however fuel flow is off, and engine HP is off.
At that altitude I should be getting 65%ish⊠I was getting 40%.
Itâs a non Turbo engine, but regardless, it should be makin more power. Comparing what I got on the flight to the performance numbers in the manuals, something isnât right.
Others are noticing this too and havenât flown the Mooney because of it.
The Turbo mod available on flightsim.to is nice, but it isnât representative of the aircraft in real life, so Iâm not really interested in it⊠It gives Mooney too much power.
I really donât get why folks fly the M20 at these altitudes for any length of time. It is unpressurized and you have to wear a mask. That is not the usual flight envelope.
I do understand wanting a plane to hit the numbers, and what you describe looks pretty close, especially considering you are well above what would be a normal flight altitude in that plane.
It is NA, and sheer horsepower is the only reason it can hit the heights it can, but the performance drop off is real noticeable because the plane itself is not happy up there.
Keep it where your passengers can breathe, and it performs quite nicely. It is not the 414.
Right, I canât imagine wanting to go above 11K, except when crossing the Rockies, and, even then, Iâd usually choose a route that I could stay lower if I could. Though, flying around Arizona, where ground height is around 7.5K, 11K is kinda low
Just verifying that you have tried leaning out the mixture as you climb. The Mooney is definitely affected by mixture as it climbs to higher altitudes and quickly starts to lose power if you donât lean it out.
Excellent question, but it assumes that mixture control works. Was that ever fixed by Asobo? The last I knew, the only way it really worked properly was if you set automatic mixture control. But, it is very possible Asobo has fixed the mixture control issue (and has Carenado implemented the fix?).
