Cessna 172 Skyhawk (G1000): strange geometry in cockpit - could be related to icing?

[DrHadron4701]

SIM INFORMATION

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• Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020 or 2024:
  2024

• Version Build Number (Where do I locate that?):
  current build as of 11/22-2024

• Game Platform (Steam, Xbox, MS Store):
  Pc, MS Store

ISSUE DESCRIPTION

1. Description of the issue:
   When flying in icing conditions in the aircraft, a strange object appears in the cockpit. The object appears to be transparent, but with an icing texture on it (my interpretation) See reference screenshots.
   EDIT: Can confirm that the icing texture applied to the object becomes more dense/visible when icing worsens.

2. If applicable, which aircraft is experiencing this issue:
   Cessna 172 Skyhawk (G1000), cargo variant.

3. Did you remove all your community mods/add-ons? If yes, are you still experiencing the issue?
   Yes, community folder is empty.

FREQUENCY OF ISSUE

How often does this occur for you? (Example: Just once, every time on sim load, intermittently)
Only experienced this issue once. First time flying in icing conditions (assuming issue is related to icing.)

REPRODUCTION STEPS

Please list clear steps you took in order to help our test team reproduce the same issue.

1. Start career mode and enter a cargo mission with the aircraft.
2. Fly into icing conditions.
3. Look for the issue in the cockpit.

Alternatively, perform a flight in icing conditions in Free Flight.

YOUR SETTINGS

If the issue still occurs with no mods and add-ons, please continue to report your issue. If not, please move this post to the User Support Hub.

1. What peripherals are you using, if relevant:
   N/A

2. [PC Only] Are you using Developer Mode or have you made any changes to it?
   No

3. [PC, MSFS 2020 Only] Are you using DX11 or DX12?
   N/A

4. [PC Only] What GPU (Graphics Card) do you use?
   RTX 3070 Ti

5. [PC Only] What other relevant PC specs can you share?
   N/A

MEDIA

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[Ouchie13]

Can confirm, this same issue happens to me when flying the 172 in icing conditions. Has happened consistently every time there is icing.

[MrFasching]

It’s happening to me too, right now. Definitely related to icing conditions.
I don’t know if all aircraft are affected but the C172 is.

[DerFluch21]

Do you have the same issue if you follow the OP’s steps to reproduce it?
• yes

Provide extra information to complete the original description of the issue:
• nothing to add. Happens in icing conditions

[drhugobr]

ISSUE DESCRIPTION

Description of the issue:

Cessna 172 has a duplicated window frame for the ICING model

[PC Only] Did you remove all your community mods/add-ons? If yes, are you still experiencing the issue?
no addons

FREQUENCY OF ISSUE

How often does this occur for you (Example: Just once, every time on sim load, intermittently)?

every time I encounter ICE

REPRODUCTION STEPS

Please list clear steps you took in order to help our test team reproduce the same issue:

1. set temp between -0 and -15, and fly through high humidity
2. look down and right, you should see a transparent window frame coming in to view depending on the icing level.

[PC Only] Are you using Developer Mode or have you made any changes to it?

I am a developer, but the developer mode is off.

[PC Only] What GPU (Graphics Card) do you use?

4070 TI

MEDIA

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[DementedCorn327]

Do you have the same issue if you follow the OP’s steps to reproduce it?
• yes

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•

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[Eefoe]

Do you have the same issue if you follow the OP’s steps to reproduce it?
• Yes

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• N/A

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[Mooncatt3953]

Happened to me yesterday in my first icing condition.

[aurel42de]

Can confirm this. One of many model glitches with the MSFS2024 default aircraft.
I wish release dates were set based on product quality instead of the other way around.
But this is the darkest timeline.

[dreampage]

ISSUE DESCRIPTION

Description of the issue: When the C172 ices up, one of the ice textures is positioned in the cockpit, right next to the pilot’s seat.

If applicable, which aircraft is experiencing this issue: Cessna 172 G1000 (Cargo, possibly all variants)

[PC Only] Did you remove all your community mods/add-ons? If yes, are you still experiencing the issue? N/A

FREQUENCY OF ISSUE

How often does this occur for you (Example: Just once, every time on sim load, intermittently)?

Every time.

REPRODUCTION STEPS

Please list clear steps you took in order to help our test team reproduce the same issue:

1. Fly a C172 into icing conditions.
2. Look around in the cockpit.

YOUR SETTINGS

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What peripherals are you using, if relevant: N/A

[PC Only] Are you using Developer Mode or have you made any changes to it? N/A

[PC, MSFS 2020 Only] Are you using DX11 or DX12? N/A

[PC Only] What GPU (Graphics Card) do you use? N/A

[PC Only] What other relevant PC specs can you share? N/A

MEDIA

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[SQuID1363]

Do you have the same issue if you follow the OP’s steps to reproduce it?
• Yes. Fly the 172 into icing conditions and look to the pilot’s right side as per OP screenshot

Provide extra information to complete the original description of the issue:
• I was flying the cargo 172 with boxes in career

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[gabster1501]

Do you have the same issue if you follow the OP’s steps to reproduce it?
• yes

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I have it in the daher TBM, icing on front window is too far away from the window.

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[MrFasching]

There is another post about this topic.

https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/cessna-172-skyhawk-g1000-strange-geometry-in-cockpit-could-be-related-to-icing/669898?u=mrfasching

[Chewwy94]

Thank you for the bug report.

We have created an internal ticket to see if our team already has this logged, and if not they will attempt to reproduce the issue and create a new bug report. This item is now marked as feedback-logged. If there is an existing bug report or one is created, we will move this thread to bug-logged

[SoaringRayven]

Do you have the same issue if you follow the OP’s steps to reproduce it?
• Fly into icing conditions, the window icing effect for the side window is in the middle of the plane, like OP’s picture. As it warms up the effect slowly goes away.

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[JebKerman91]

Using the template below will greatly help the team reproduce the issue and ease the process of fixing it. Before posting, search for an existing report. If you are not sure it’s a bug, please first report in User Support Hub.

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ISSUE DESCRIPTION

Description of the issue: with some ice accumulation an odd effect becomes visible in the inside, as if a texture of an effect were clipping through.

If applicable, which aircraft is experiencing this issue: seen on C172 G1000

[PC Only] Did you remove all your community mods/add-ons? If yes, are you still experiencing the issue?

FREQUENCY OF ISSUE

How often does this occur for you (Example: Just once, every time on sim load, intermittently)? With icing accumulation

REPRODUCTION STEPS

Please list clear steps you took in order to help our test team reproduce the same issue:

1. Fly into icing

YOUR SETTINGS

If the issue still occurs with no mods and add-ons, please continue to report your issue. If not, please move this post to the User Support Hub.

What peripherals are you using, if relevant:

[PC Only] Are you using Developer Mode or have you made any changes to it?

[PC, MSFS 2020 Only] Are you using DX11 or DX12?

[PC Only] What GPU (Graphics Card) do you use? RTX 4070 Super

[PC Only] What other relevant PC specs can you share?

MEDIA

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[YggBjorn]

Do you have the same issue if you follow the OP’s steps to reproduce it?
• Yes

Provide extra information to complete the original description of the issue:
• Saw it on Xbox on version 1.1.10.0, haven’t flown in icing conditions since the patch to 1.2.7.0