ISSUE DESCRIPTION
Description of the issue: Free flight loading into Longitude the rudders do not move when when cold and dark. Only on runway when engines are running.
FREQUENCY OF ISSUE
How often does this occur for you (Example: Just once, every time on sim load, intermittently)? all the time since SU4
REPRODUCTION STEPS
Please list clear steps you took in order to help our test team reproduce the same issue:
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Load into free flight with Longitude
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Check flight controls cold and dark
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brakes and rudder do not respond to movement on TPR
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Checked in other aircraft if my rudders work cold and dark - YES they do
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Once engines are running they do work
YOUR SETTINGS
If the issue still occurs with no mods and add-ons, please continue to report your issue. If not, please move this post to the User Support Hub.
What peripherals are you using, if relevant: Alpha bravo TPR mouse keyboard
[PC Only] Are you using Developer Mode or have you made any changes to it? NO
[PC, MSFS 2020 Only] Are you using DX11 or DX12? 12
[PC Only] What GPU (Graphics Card) do you use? 5080
[PC Only] What other relevant PC specs can you share? MSI X870E Carbon
MEDIA
Please add a screenshot or video of the issue occurring.
Not sure if it is a bug. I’ve tried the CJ4 & C52, pedals do not illuminate blue in lock mode.
Have you ever noticed it was working before or in others 1st party aircraft ?
I have had a look too, agree they don’t illuminate but my TPR’s work the rudders in Citation X and PC-12 which I have just checked against.
Could you check in the longitude if your rudders work please. I cant bind mine to anything
I will change title if they don’t and if yours do it can be moved to support please.
No issue here (Extreme 3D Pro joystick):
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Oh no, what could it be then?
I get no movement at all.
Question, in this aircraft do the engines or APU need to be on for hydraulics to work the pedals?
Very good point. The video I shared was starting on the runway. Starting cold & dark rudder pedals are not moving, I guess they will once I start the APU or the engines.
Start on the runway and check if they move on your side.
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Yes the TPR’s work on the runway, brakes and rudders 
Are these hydraulic or is this a fault?
The internet says yes, fly by wire but shouldnt you still get movement on flight controls cold and dark?
I cannot answer this question, for sure some knowledgeful users will 
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In the Longitude the rudder is hydraulically actuated by wire using electrical input from the rudder pedals but is not directly connected (unlike ailerons and elevator). Therefore it will not move unless you have hydraulic pressure which requires the engines to be running.
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Thanks, I was wondering by the time we had finished discussing this whether that was the case. Thanks for confirming. 
