CJ4 Upgraded Avionics?

[LEOPilot504]

Hey Guys,

Just had a quick question. Has anyone ever developed an upgraded avionics setup for the CJ4? Perhaps like the setup out of the longitude?

I fly the CJ4 alot, but really enjoy the avionics setup in the Longitude or even the TBM.

Was just curious.

Thank you

[Terrylawdinn]

The Working Title version of the CJ4 is the current latest edition of the aircraft and it’s avionics pack is (said to be, I’m not a RL CJ4 pilot!) pretty close to the real thing.
WT are working on a totally revamped model which is to become the default sim CJ4 in due course (i.e. “soon”).

[N316TS]

Hi there,
Terrylawdinn is exactly right.
This was addressed on the last Twitch Developer Q&A last week. If I were on the desktop forum, I could provide a link to the transcript, but instead, I will quote it:

@N316TS

Cessna Citation CJ4 Overhaul

Timestamp

Matt - And then, I know, everybody has been waiting for the CJ4 overhaul for a long time. It’s taken us a little bit of time, but we took the mod and we said, “You know what? That’s great, but we’re not going to use any of that.” We’re gonna start fresh. We’re gonna get with all the framework that we built with the [G1000] Nxi and now the GNS and really make it at that same level. So we’ve got some improved soundscape that’s coming, we’ve got a totally overhauled flight model, which has been really fun to fly. We’ve got the avionics that are in the unit, they’re getting totally overhauled as far as the visuals go. And even though we were very, very close to the visuals before, folks that fly the plane in real life and other folks that are really into it are going to see the differences, which is really nice. Also has the next-gen flight plan stuff, which the mod did not. So you know, you’ve got RFs [radius to fix], RF legs, intercepts, all the crazy complex procedures and arcs and all that stuff is in there. One thing that people have been asking for for a long time is the split FMC [flight management computer] and MFDs [multi-function displays]. And those have their own settings. You can store them separately, you can set them up totally separately. And that’s really handy, especially for having the tuning page on the copilot’s side and maybe the legs page on the pilot’s side. So that’ll be super neat.

Matt - We’ve got an improved CAS [Crew Alert System]. So the crew alert messages are all on the MFD now, the copilot MFD as they are on the real plane. And we added a whole bunch of new messages, we’ve got a new FMC message system, so you’ll see a bunch of things, like a lot of the VNAV messages will pop up now. So if you’ve got cross-track error and things like that. Full TCAS-II, again spec accurate. You’ll get traffic alerts, resolution alerts. We did bring in keyboard entry mode again. (We know it’s super popular, so you know, convenience. Just click on it, type in.) We’ve even enhanced the VNAV we had in the mod. This is even a little bit more advanced. We handled a couple of more edge cases. And we did the details like the boot-up screen and stuff like that.

If you go to the video link, they have some screenshots.

[CasualClick]

Personal Comments & Observations

If you’re referring to the “ergonomics” or the feel of the G3000/5000 vs. the CJ4’s Honeywell ProLine 21, you’d have to find a CJ3+ for the sim (as far as I know, one doesn’t exist yet) - that’s the only model of the Citation Jet series I know that has a G3000. It takes a bit of doing, but you can learn the ProLine 21, and once you do, you can also handle most of the jetliners that user the FMS as well.

[KenG1175]

@CasualClick

If you’re referring to the “ergonomics” or the feel of the G3000/5000 vs. the CJ4’s Honeywell ProLine 21

Unless something has changed very recently, Rockwell Collins (now Collins Aerospace) makes the Pro Line 21 and Pro Line Fusion brands of avionics while Honeywell makes the Primus brands of avionics. They are two separate and independent companies and are considered competitors in the avionics market.

As such the Collins Aerospace FMS3000 operates differently than a Honeywell NGFMS.

All brands are Trademarked by their respective companies and are mentioned without applicable TM markings only for clarity.