I can’t believe I’m at this point two years into this sim but here I am. The latest “update” has wiped out all my setting and preferences. Everything I have worked to tweak and tune for months. Everything reset. For someone who was so excited (bought a PC specifically for this game, invested in premium deluxe, bought almost $500 in 3rd party aircraft, airports and scenery) it seems strange to feel this way about a product I have loved since the 80s. But I’m done. This software was supposed to be a fun and visually enjoyable experience, not an ongoing exercise in frustration and disappointment.
Asobo, you never fix anything properly, but you keep churning out new content that also breaks or doesn’t work from the start. I’m tired of waiting a year for fixes to scenery. I’m tired of not being able to do simple things like clean out the garbage in my logbook. I’m tired of having to make 67 selections and modifications to my configurations every time there is an update. I’m tired of ATC that, although not perfect in FSX worked pretty well, now being a joke. I’m tired of constant CTDs after 20 or 30 minutes of flying. I’m tired of melted scenery, black lines in water and stutters stutters stutters. I’m tired of two years of waiting for the next update, because that will make it better. I’m tired of this software.
As stated above, I can’t believe I’m at this point (flight simmer since 1982) but you have pushed me here. This software is unstable, not user friendly and most of all not fun anymore. I am uninstalling it and not looking back, despite the considerable investment I have made in it both from a hardware and content perspective. I will uninstall it and gain some valuable disk space, as well as a reduction in my frustration and disappointment levels.
I may give x-plane a try but i don’t know, this software has put me right off of flight sims. And I will most definitely not be an early adopter of the 2024 if and when it comes out.
I’m sure MS and Asobo made a lot of money on this, and I guess that’s what it’s all about from their perspective. But you won’t get another dime of my money on this sim or any other product you produce. Thanks for destroying a franchise I loved, you should team up with Disney. And for the MS shills here who will say “good riddance” to me, right back at ya!
For the rest of you, I appreciate all the help and tips I have received from the people on this forum over the past two years. I hope it works out for you with this software but I don’t think it will. Cheers.
I’m really surprised to see all the negative comments on the sim. Not sure why a lot of people can have such problems when I can fly it 98% of the time with no problems. Yeah the ATC sucks. Don’t like it, turn it off. And things going on on the ground at airports ain’t perfect. Other than PMDG 737 I fly mostly the default planes included in the sim. No add-on scenery and just the world updates. I don’t push the sim to the limit by flying through NY city in an f-18 at 300knts 300ft off the ground. I’m realistic as to what the sim can do.
When I think of the FS versions (I’ve been simming since FS98), this sim really is light years ahead. Sometimes I’m still in awe of it. Could it be better? Yes. But it’s a complex piece of software. So you need to put your expectations in check.
Very well said sir. Couldn’t have said it better myself. You spoke for a lot of us. And I like the part about: *And for the MS shills here who will say “good riddance” to me, right back at ya!. I don’t know why (including myself) people stuck or stick with it for so long. Was I a fool or was I addicted to the eye candy…? As I said above in my post: MSFS always felt like it was in a perpetual BETA state. I truly believe that MSFS 2020 was nothing but a BETA test for 2024 coming out next year. How else would you test the market but make a SIM to be used and tested by the masses and make $$ on it to develop the next one so everybody working on it gets paid to work on the next rendition. It’s marketing on a mass scale. We all fell for it.
Incidentally, I sold my Xbox X to my nephews friend today. I’m officially done with MS and MSFS 2020.
Like others im on xbox, I get at least 2 CTDs a day and have to restart the sim at a minimum of 3 times a day, used to I was like you and didnt have any problems at all and thought people were being to critical of the sim, but now I understand what its like to have to spend the first 30 mins of playing fixing some new issue thats come up.
I don’t buy that. I’ve had it on PC for 3 years too. I was always one of those who never had a problem with CTDs or anything else. So obviously people are doing something wrong, have got bad routers, don’t understand their system using ■■■■■■ add-ons, don’t know how to fly or something. Not putting the blame on you guys but I’m just saying there’s a reason why for one person it works and the other it doesn’t.
Neither. If you want so sim on an Xbox you have no choice but to accept that it is what it is. Personally I’ve had very little problems since it launched on the Box. Maybe it’s because I fly mostly GA from smaller airports, who knows.
This is a common response to someone who doesn’t understand the complexities of software, no disrespect but if you have no problems that’s great but don’t put other people down because they do have problems.
I have been playing this sim almost since the beginning on a brand new laptop with descent specs at that time (and still). I could play everything on ultra without issues.
Than those notorious 2 updates came. Stutters, CTD’s, turning down specs etc. etc.
Iam no computer wizard and I dont have hours per day/week/month time to spent calibrating, tuning, adjusting and resetting specs, drivers and settings.
And even if i had the time, I use the sim to relax, fly a bit around and put my mind at ease. Just plug, play and relax.
Not plug, update, tune, tweak, restart, reset, tune again, read youtube tutorials, searching forum topics, tune again, reset, restart, plug again and pray for the best and hopefully play a bit.
And unfortunately, this has been the case many time in the past years.
Sometimes it was a windows update, sometimes a driver update and sometimes it was the sim itseu. All up to the point i was done with it… quit the junk…! delete it!
2 months later, i reinstalled it and it went better. Just better… not perfect.
So why retry at all??? Because when it works perfect, its a beauty. I absolutely love it.
But i still suffer from stutters on the last 500 feet before landing, i still see disformed landscapes, I still suffer from an occasional CTD…
Long story short I still have my frustrations, but I compromised and hope for some updates in the near future that will finally fix this.
The ones that claim not to have any issues at all… well, i salute you and wish you many more great hours of fun. Because thats what it is for in the end.
For those that still have major issues: I cant help you, but I feel with you and hopefully it will be fixed one day and you can enjoy this beauty in all its glory.
Or like me, you compromise and just hope for the best.
I’m not flying MSFS so much recently (enjoying the stability of AeroFly instead), but this morning I thought I would remind myself of the pleasures of MSFS.
After getting the regular missing “Ready To Fly” prompt in VR (so requiring a restart), I found I couldn’t apply power to the engines, either on the joystick or in the cockpit. Checked in the controls set-up panel, and the joystick was certainly connected and working. After several (more) restarts, suddenly it sprang into action, for no apparent reason. The following flight was relatively uneventful - lost the ATC voices, of course, and ATC again left it too long before telling me to descend so I had to go around, and I got that horrible “Good Bye” at the end of messages.
Like many others users, I’ve come to accept such problems. Looking at the extensive list of unresolved “bug-logged” (not to mention the “feed-back logged”) postings reminds me I might actually be one of the luckier ones, with only a few showing up on each flight.
Despite the impressive scenery, I’m afraid I still remain one of the “disappointed” crowd.
Hello. I have Xbox S and I am not going to put up with any more failed updates. They have exhausted my patience.
Even if it costs me money, can anyone assure me that by switching to Xbox X I will stop suffering? Will I be able to fly the B787 and the B747, which I currently cannot due to continuous black screens? Or LVFR’s A321? Or the B737 Max from Bredok3d? Will ATC work? I won’t have floating lights on the runway?
I think they should have informed me of all this before buying the Xbox S or not have sold me airplanes and airports that I cannot enjoy on this console.
Hi, IMHO you need a top notch PC and good hardware to really enjoy the sim. MSFS isn´t a console game, if you want to get the best out of it. Ever since I started flightsimming (about 20 years ago) I always had to keep investing in better hardware. Over the years I´ve invested a large amount of money to keep up with the sims I used.
Please don´t get me wrong, but just because MS sells the product on XBOX doesn´t mean you can compare it with a powerful PC. The question is as always: How important is simming to you and how much are you willing to invest over time. That is something that everyone has to find out for themselves.
I think, the XBOX version of the game is aimed at people who are starting to get familiar with simming. After a while, you´ll have to decide if you want to improve your experience. You don´t have to end up with a level D sim at home, but the gap between using a console or a very good PC is very, very large.
Why would you want to fly that? It’s the worst 3rd party plane out there. Xbox X can be had for $349 lately. It’s miles above the S. Will you still have problems? Nothing in life is assured. I for one have never had a black screen. I think most of these problems are self inflicted but I may be wrong.
Some obvious things.
HDR and Dolby vision off. Useless unless you have an OLED.
Auto game mode off. Have your TV/monitor set this to always on for this HDMI port. You don’t want to two to get confused.
VRR on if your TV/monitor support it.
Rolling cache deleted and turned off. Do this after every update.
No third-party scenery. Don’t trust developers and you’re only asking for problems.
Never use resume.
I only use a Logitech wireless keyboard mouse combo and Xbox controller. Maybe people’s problems are peripherals. Who knows. If the X don’t work for you take it back. But it’s well worth the upgrade. I tried the S last year and while it ran smoothly, it had too much scenery popping in and out for me.
No argument here. Aero fly is really well done and it just works without issue. My gramps introduced it to me and now I’m a fan of it too. Can’t beat German engineering. Funny thing though, only 9 people working on Aero fly compared to 500 working on MSFS and Aero fly works better…interesting
I’m not surprised at all. People like to complain in a public forum.
The real puzzler is why PC people are so quick to blame the sim itself, when the problems are with the interaction of the software with their particular computer platform.
I’m like you. Some issues, sure. But for the most part the sim runs beautifully on my PC. That proves one thing: The sim is not broken. Scratched and dinged up maybe, but not broken…
As for Xbox simmers. I have always, and always will believe, that they should have a completely stable experience - assuming they only fly default aircraft, with no 3rd party products, using an Xbox controller, mouse and keyboard.
