Constant CTD’s on Xbox with 3rd Party Scenery & Airports

It’s in the pipeline I think - no trouble with actually building one, just selecting the best parts really is where help might be needed. I would want it fully optimised for flight sim. I do have two other computers - a mac mini that runs 24/7 and a windows desktop that i only use when i run my HAM radio stuff - i might look at replacing both of those and just have the one more powerful PC running, probably a bad idea but ??

Anyway this is going off-topic here :wink:

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I’d recommend using PC part picker. That’s what helped me. And someone very helpful on these forums.

But yeah, off topic haha.

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I have FlyTampa’s Vegas pack. Absolutely fantastic, but the Airport part of causes CTD on my Series X. Every. Single. Time. I fly near it.

Haven’t found a solution outside of deleting the Airport. :pensive:

Otherwise, it’s great.

Thinking of picking up Samscene’s NYC pack, but I’m scared. :weary:

I have it running on Beta with reasonable performance and this is with both RKbridgers New York and New Jersey bridge enhancements, without those, it might run even better. There’s a good chance you’ll be safe but it’s up to you.

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I have constant CTD’s with pilot plus Biggin hill EGKB . Its the only aiport im having problems with on Xbox series x running the SU10 beta.

Everytime the aiport loads in fine and as soon as i load into the cockpit blam stright to desktop. This addon is completely useless to me and i’ve tried to get a refund through Zendesk and nothing. I feel totally ripped off.

I think the VRAM theory is likely accurate. I’m not sure why, but this affected area seems to move around for me.

For example, a few months ago I noticed that I couldn’t get near KDFW without a crash every single time. A few weeks ago, after I had taken a break from the sim, I noticed that the issue at DFW wasn’t occurring anymore. Now, only within the last few days, I am finding that KATL results in a CTD every single time I try to load in. Certain resource intensive 3rd party airports seem to have persistent issues, like KLAS and KBUF, but the CTDs come and go at Asobo’s hand crafted airports.

Since the issue changes by location, I wonder if one of the main contributing factors has something to do with location. I don’t think live weather/traffic could be the issue, because I still experience crashes constantly without those. Maybe this has something to do with the area around the airport being cached?

I agree. Used to be on xbox and all my “crash” airports from xbox work fine on PC but I notice the VRAM usage at those is really high (I have 16GB gpu and it often approaches the limit). Not sure how xbox could ever handle those given the limited memory unless they create a “dumbed-down” version of airports for xbox/Marketplace. btw, NZA did exactly this for NZNS. The marketplace version reduces memory usage and has less detail to try to make it more compatible with xbox. This was according to NZA and is in the version notes as well. NZNS is amazing but I’d get occasional crashes on xbox before their “update” there as well even though it is a smaller airport.

Happy to report that SU10 public release has comes with absolutely no improvement in this department.

Instant CTDs when launching a flight from the gate at both third party and Asobo hand crafted airports.

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I was so happy with su10 release news from my friends, clean install downloaded and bought 3 addons to support devs with happiness. FlyTampa Las Vegas Airport/City Bundle KLAS, KLSV airforce base and Spitfire mk ixc. Only msfs deluxe and premium installed, it asked me to install them at start, no world updates or any other addons installed. Instant CTDs or under 5mins CTDs on both airports with spitfire or default cessna. Uninstalled them, cold start XsX, deleted reserved to make sure nothing left behind. Cold start again. And it is still crashing, CTDs under 10-15 mins on any premium or deluxe airports. For the love of god, it is near 7 months, CTDs is not going away.

Community managers, moderators. Can you please help me get my refunds, at least last 3 ones? I am absolutely tired and sad, bought a lot of things and nothing worksas intended. I feel horrible, my family spent a lot of for XsX and lgc148 just for msfs2020 after my surgeries.

Thanks.

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Yup. Tried reinstalling the Airport part of FlyTampa’s Vegas Scenery. Instant CTD.

Absolute garbage that the only usability comes from the City part. FT has moved on to other projects (that i won’t be purchasing), so we can count on no fix.

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I found this also “Microsoft Aware That Games Are Crashing With Recent Console Update” https://twitter.com/XboxSupport/status/1572787497192820737?s=20&t=jILzLYk2wu_-zRb0uqBwZg This is so frustrating. Not sure this was the actual reason of all my CTDs or it was msfs2020. Only 2 places i don’t get crashes are omdb and brisbane airport. I will test again when i feel ok.

Hi, Just got my first CTD after SU10 landed at Blackbushe and CTD. Had a quick flight from Wycombe Air Park to Oxford and again as soon as I touched down CTD. Question I would like to ask why was this not fixed with all that testing that was going on?

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This is now a messy issue that requires Asobo and third party developers to get together.

I would imagine that it’s part Asobo and part update by the developer now.

What does need to happen is addons that are not fit for purpose be pulled from the marketplace and either a time limit given to devs/Asobo for a fix or people can get their money back.

This is simply no longer on and I’m not going to let this rest. We need to gather as a community to get this sorted out once and for all and for both parties to take full responsibility.

This needs to be brought up in the next Q&A.

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I can’t believe how amazing job Devs did with msfs2020 on xbox, no more stutters, amazing performance, butter smooth experience. Huge thanks for all the hard work. Sadly CTDs are still there. I am sure they are really busy with DLSS3 and some other important things, hopefully they will fix CTDs someday. I don’t want refunds anymore after seeing the fantastic work they did with performance. I can live with only Brisbane airport for now since no ctds there ever. Have a great day you all. Peace.

Edit: i saw sydney airport on new releases list today, YSSY. I realized i owned it, maybe i bought it on pc before i forgot. I installed it to test it and now i got my 1st ctd on YBBN Brisbane! It was the only airport not crashing for me. Are these ssd usage numbers are normal please? Imgur: The magic of the Internet 173gb msfs, 69gb reserved, 8gb cache. In content manager it says 24.53/187.16 gib space used. Somethings wrong with file system? Why i began to get ctds on ybbn all of a sudden after installing yssy?
Edit2: ctd on YSSY under 5mins while taxi to takeoff right now. / YBBN 15min test, takeoff and many 0.5sec freezes while trying to land back, it was close to ctd. / installed KLAS again, ctd under 10mins taxi to takeoff. 1 airport is barely working out of 17. Sad part msfs is extremely smooth and performing great now with su10. Clouds look fantastic, maybe they changed lighting also? Anyways

This is good news Request Microsoft/Asobo to revisit consumer rights on marketplace content - #116

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since su8 it is no longer possible to fully complete two flights on the xbox sx. Most of the time, the first flight that was planned completely using the map works without any problems. No matter whether third part add-ons are used or not. But as soon as the second flight is planned and started, a ctd is usually created in the cold and dark state by changing cameras

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Xbox Series X , Turtlebeach Velocity One ,
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Exactly the main problem is starting the second flight. It is clear to me that the third part addons are usually the cause of a CTD, especially now shortly after the release of SU10. But apart from that I have seen this Bug very often with the standard content. I suspect it’s still related to the memory issue on the Xbox. This bug definitely needs to be pursued further

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Agreed, SU10 has not been a very kind update. I use the console and have CTD on 90% of my flights, different aircraft, different times, etc. When (if) I do land I hit the battery button so to get credit in the log!

Why even bother starting a flight? As for addons and peripherals, that’s MS to check. I’m not doing QC for them, not after what I have paid.

I will probably just wait.

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This is very odd because for many it’s working really well - mine has been the best it has been ever since SU10, I even bought my 1st plane and thats working too.

This disparity between users is very odd.

Hmmm, I have several planes that I’ve added, and seem to be having constant CTD issues with the Honda Jet (an add-on), the TBM-930 and the 787-10; both are Asobo’s. I fly these three the most.

May be the game and SU10 just can’t take that many add-ons. And the tof doesn’t really matter. Short hops of an hr in the HJ to major jumps in the 787 from CYYZ to KMAI yields similar CTDs.

Anyways, it is frustrating and can’t wait to hear something from Asobo b/c I am not alone on this one.

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