Constant Random CTD

wcc96387 · December 15, 2024, 6:10pm

ISSUE DESCRIPTION

Description of the issue:

CTD’s occur at random times, sometimes in a main menu, during all stages of a flight. I’ve tried different aircraft, weather, happens in free flight and career. Sometimes its a CTD sometimes screen goes black and PC restarts, sometimes BSOD.

[PC Only] Did you remove all your community mods/add-ons? If yes, are you still experiencing the issue?

Empty community folder

FREQUENCY OF ISSUE

How often does this occur for you (Example: Just once, every time on sim load, intermittently)?

Usually every time, they’re random. sometimes I’m able to complete multiple flights other times I can’t get off the ground. sometimes there in a menu, sometimes while starting a flight and loading in. sometimes while navagiating through menus before a flight (like maintaining aircraft in my companies, looking at new airplanes to buy etc)

REPRODUCTION STEPS

Please list clear steps you took in order to help our test team reproduce the same issue:

Start MSFS 2024
proceed to start flight
high likelihood it’ll crash, just to what extent

YOUR SETTINGS

If the issue still occurs with no mods and add-ons, please continue to report your issue. If not, please move this post to the User Support Hub.

What peripherals are you using, if relevant:

Velocityone Flightstick

[PC Only] Are you using Developer Mode or have you made any changes to it?
No

[PC, MSFS 2020 Only] Are you using DX11 or DX12?

[PC Only] Many issues may be due to an outdated graphics card. Please state your Graphics Card Driver Manufacturer (NVIDIA, Intel, AMD) and Version:

Nvidia 4080 Super
Driver version: 32.0.15.6636
Driver Date 12/3/2024

[PC Only] What other relevant PC specs can you share?
i9-14900KF
ASUS ROG Strix B760-I Gaming WiFi 6E Intel
Nvidia 4080 Super
Lian Li SP 850W
Teamgroup 32GB (2x 16GB) 6000Mhz DDR5
1TB NVMe SSD
Windows 11

MEDIA

Please add a screenshot or video of the issue occurring.
Here is the Event log from the last CTD

Faulting application name: FlightSimulator2024.exe, version: 1.2.7.0, time stamp: 0x00000000
Faulting module name: CoherentUIGT.dll, version: 2.9.5.0, time stamp: 0x6749d3e5
Exception code: 0xc0000005
Fault offset: 0x0000000000093680
Faulting process id: 0x3DF4
Faulting application start time: 0x1DB4F1898A0D9BE
Faulting application path: C:\Program Files\WindowsApps\Microsoft.Limitless_1.2.7.0_x64__8wekyb3d8bbwe\FlightSimulator2024.exe
Faulting module path: C:\Program Files\WindowsApps\Microsoft.Limitless_1.2.7.0_x64__8wekyb3d8bbwe\CoherentUIGT.dll
Report Id: a764deea-9b0a-4348-bfc3-f6f989354913
Faulting package full name: Microsoft.Limitless_1.2.7.0_x64__8wekyb3d8bbwe

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Pieter2427 · December 15, 2024, 6:27pm

Do you have the same issue if you follow the OP’s steps to reproduce it?
• No

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• I never have a CTD in 2024. Also after multiple hours, multiple flights, going in or out VR

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Pieter2427 · December 15, 2024, 6:30pm

You could try lower your MEM clock a bit to like 5700 MHz and see if that makes a difference.

wcc96387 · December 15, 2024, 6:39pm

lowered to 5700, I’ll give it a shot

wcc96387 · December 15, 2024, 8:01pm

Still getting CTD’s

Event Log:
Faulting application name: FlightSimulator2024.exe, version: 1.2.7.0, time stamp: 0x00000000
Faulting module name: FlightSimulator2024.exe, version: 1.2.7.0, time stamp: 0x00000000
Exception code: 0xc0000005
Fault offset: 0x00000000021b0796
Faulting process id: 0xB40
Faulting application start time: 0x1DB4F244D1D6CFA
Faulting application path: C:\Program Files\WindowsApps\Microsoft.Limitless_1.2.7.0_x64__8wekyb3d8bbwe\FlightSimulator2024.exe
Faulting module path: C:\Program Files\WindowsApps\Microsoft.Limitless_1.2.7.0_x64__8wekyb3d8bbwe\FlightSimulator2024.exe
Report Id: ea85a8c0-2adb-4422-8fb4-5e820d4dfe84
Faulting package full name: Microsoft.Limitless_1.2.7.0_x64__8wekyb3d8bbwe
Faulting package-relative application ID: App

wcc96387 · December 15, 2024, 8:05pm

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wcc96387 · December 15, 2024, 9:55pm

I managed to get 2 flights done in the Vision Jet. I just had a CTD in the Vision Jet during the Descent when I zoomed out on the MFD. Zooming out to about the 40nm rand ring is when it crashed. I had that happen before but only now was really paying attention to everything I was doing in the sim.

Update:
just tried a cargo mission in the Caravan, Got halfway through the mission(about 1 hour into cruise) everything going well until I zoomed in on the MFD, frozen then CTD. Is there a bug for CTD when zooming on the MFD?

wcc96387 · December 16, 2024, 6:02pm

I think I found a band aid, I disabled XMP in BIOS and have now completed 2 cargo missions and I’m on my 3rd now. I haven’t touched the zoom on the PFD though but I’m now able to get through a whole flight. I set the zoom range ring to about 25nm and leave it there.

QuickSlicks · December 16, 2024, 7:15pm

I had constant CTD’s when I started playing MSFS24.
I’m on an i7-14700KF with an ASUS motherboard.

It turned out that settings on the ASUS MB were causing the Intel CPU to run at higher limits than Intels default/recommended settings… This was causing the processor to overvolt/heat (not sure exactly what) and CTD.

I updated my bios (it was rather out of date) and the update contained a specific option within bios to turn off ‘ASUS Advanced OC Profile’ and change it to use ‘Intel default’ setting instead.

I’ve only had a random crash or 2 since fixing it weeks ago, so safe to say this was the problem in my case and it sounds like the problem extends to all 13/14th gen Intel processors combined with (perhaps certain) ASUS motherboards.

Hope this helps!!

wcc96387 · December 16, 2024, 7:24pm

I updated my BIOS to the latest version from ASUS and disabled XMP, I recall seeing the overclock seeing and it is on “Intel default”. I know the 14th Gen processors had an serious issue with overvolting and killing CPU’s but I believe that was remedied within the last few months with updates.

So far I’ve made sure my BIOS is up to date, my Nvidia drivers are up to date, Windows is up to date and reduced my memory clock from 6000Mhz to 5700Mhz in the BIOS. I disabled XMP this morning and so far have had 3 good flights today, Had one crash early on but disabling XMP seems to have been a big factor in stability.

I also just checked via Hardware Monitor and my CPU hasn’t gotten above 83C and the GPU hasn’t gotten above 68C with 2024 running for the last 5 hours. Considering I’m only running a 280mm AIO cooler that CPU temp is nice since the 14th gen i9 love to run hot

QuickSlicks · December 16, 2024, 7:50pm

Nice one bud - Hopefully you can get some stable flying in now!!

There’s nothing worse than constant crashing, and not knowing exactly what’s causing it.. especially given the long bootup time of MSFS.. I got too-well-acquainted with the intro video / loading screen for a few days of solid CTD and testing different things, until I eventually figured it out!

Prior to realising I needed the bios update and the Intel default setting… I was underclocking my CPU using Intel Extreme Tuning Utility and that was providing stability, but obviously at the expense of some performance.
Sounds like you’re over the worst of it now, but just throwing that out there if someone else comes across the thread and it helps at all.

Happy flying!

wcc96387 · December 16, 2024, 8:28pm

Spoke too soon Just had 2 crashes back to back. one in the companies menu and one after selecting a freelance mission from the world map. the mission crash slowed to 1FPS then froze and crashed

QuickSlicks · December 16, 2024, 8:44pm

Bummer

If it were me, I’d try using the Intel XTU to reduce the clock speed to see if that helps keep it stable.
It shouldn’t still be an issue if the bios is set to the Intel default limits, but I’d defo still be trying it, just to try and rule out the CPU completely.
For reference: Mine ran default x55 core ratio and I think I put it down to x52.

I also upgraded Nvidia driver to 566.14 and found that (both before I found the issue and after I resolved it) that my performance seemed worse than with my older driver I had been using for a long time, so I’m currently running 555.99 and it runs stable. Just another thing you could consider/try I guess!

Good luck!!

wcc96387 · December 16, 2024, 8:51pm

Just installed XTU I’ll give it a shot.

I’ve never had good luck updating Nvidia drivers as soon as their released, always run into issues. My current driver is fairly recent (released 12/3/2024) and just check and there is a new one released 12/10/2024. If all else fails I’ll give it a shot as i can always roll it back

wcc96387 · December 16, 2024, 9:57pm

checked out XTU but can’t seem to adjust my core clock speed or core ratios

My P-Cores are at 57x and my E-Cores are at 44x

everything is greyed out, says undervoltage protection is enabled, any idea how to disable it?

now it seems less stable, I’m crashing when selecting a flight, 3 times in a row. select a flight, as the map zooms in to the overview it studders then crashes

wcc96387 · December 17, 2024, 1:19am

ok, I think I narrowed down part of the crashes. zooming on the PFD in flight causing CTD. I was just in free flight in the corvalis cruising at 17,500. been in cruise for about 20min, zoomed out and when the range ring hit 40nm the sim froze and CTD.

Maybe a G1000 bug? Its happening too frequently and specifically to be chance IMO

I’ve also noticed that when MSFS crashes it usually causes the webpages I have open in Opera GX to crash as well

Event View from that crash:
Faulting application name: FlightSimulator2024.exe, version: 1.2.7.0, time stamp: 0x00000000
Faulting module name: CoherentUIGT.dll, version: 2.9.5.0, time stamp: 0x6749d3e5
Exception code: 0xc0000409
Fault offset: 0x000000000016e365
Faulting process id: 0x114C
Faulting application start time: 0x1DB50181C91E0DB
Faulting application path: C:\Program Files\WindowsApps\Microsoft.Limitless_1.2.7.0_x64__8wekyb3d8bbwe\FlightSimulator2024.exe
Faulting module path: C:\Program Files\WindowsApps\Microsoft.Limitless_1.2.7.0_x64__8wekyb3d8bbwe\CoherentUIGT.dll
Report Id: 0923936a-4e74-4c6e-9ab7-5e6d9141d96c
Faulting package full name: Microsoft.Limitless_1.2.7.0_x64__8wekyb3d8bbwe

This is the Event ID 1001 that happened 3sec after the Event log above

Fault bucket 1512261687502828758, type 5
Event Name: MoBEX
Response: Not available
Cab Id: 0

Problem signature:
P1: Microsoft.Limitless_1.2.7.0_x64__8wekyb3d8bbwe
P2: praid:App
P3: 1.2.7.0
P4: 00000000
P5: CoherentUIGT.dll
P6: 2.9.5.0
P7: 6749d3e5
P8: 000000000016e365
P9: c0000409
P10: 0000000000000002

Analysis symbol:
Rechecking for solution: 0
Report Id: 0923936a-4e74-4c6e-9ab7-5e6d9141d96c
Report Status: 268435456
Hashed bucket: 175e96c44b01e5c014fca1fe1309f4d6
Cab Guid: 0

PreachingPigeon · February 16, 2025, 2:29pm

Do you have the same issue if you follow the OP’s steps to reproduce it?
• yes

Provide extra information to complete the original description of the issue:
• This is completely random. No crashes in a couple of weeks, then today I had a crash caused by module CoherentUIGT.dll.
Annoying to say the least..

If relevant, provide additional screenshots/video:
•

Grogu4333 · February 18, 2025, 11:13pm

Do you have XMP for your RAM enabled in the BIOS? Turn it off. I had it enabled and CTDs are gone. (I run AMD so in my case it was an EXPO profile, for Intel it is XMP). I also highly recommend to NOT limit your framrates in the Nvida app/settings.

Best regards

wcc96387 · February 19, 2025, 12:17am

I did this back in the beginning of January and it fixed my issues, Haven’t had a CTD or BSOD since then

I disabled XMP, hyper threading off(I don’t think I had it on to begin with but it is definitely off now) reduced active cores from 32 to 30 (I don’t remember where this setting was but Google will bring you to a YouTube video showing how) then I reduced my P Core ratio from 57 (5.7GHz) to 55(5.5GHz).

Since I first did this over 2 weeks ago now I haven’t had a single CTD.

My setup
i9-14900KF
Asus ROG Strix MB
4080 Super
32GB DDR5 6000Mhz RAM
2tb m.2 SSD
850w power supply.

I haven’t had a BSOD, random restart or CTD in any game since. I also DO NOT notice any performance hit

DementedCorn327 · February 19, 2025, 7:08pm

Moved to User Support Hub since a solution has been marked by OP.