Ah Thank you, Ill take a look
Thank you much better no holes in the water either
On a slightly different subject when I pressed KYB END to change the view all is OK, but if i then choose KYB INSERT the planes controls no longer work. pressing KYB END then gives you the different views OK, the planes controls then work OK. I was crashing a bit until I found this out LOL
Thanks again for your help much appreciated