CTD - C152 Aerobat, Bell 407, don't use CTRL + F10 (VFR pilot view save)!

User Support Hub Crashes (CTDs)
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I’ve found a bug causing a systematic CTD on the C152 Aerobat.
Tested on XBox, but quite sure this also happen on PC, can someone confirm that ?

Reported zendesk ticket : #126591

Using the (left) CTRL + F10 keys conbination cause a CTD, while this function works on the classic C152. The CTRL + F10 default key affectation is for “VFR pilot view save”:

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The C152 Aerobat version installed on my XBox is the latest : v 0.1.17

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This bug is systematic and can be easily reproduced. Happen everytime.
Start a flight (anywhere you want), and press CTRL + F10 → CTD
Tested with/without others devices (Hotas one, mouse), this doesn’t affect the result: always a CTD.

So, this bug look like an unimplemented or badly implemented function for this aircraft.

C152 Aerobat is only available on DELUXE or PREMIUM distribution.
Can someone try, if this bug also affect the PC version (it should, as theorically, the aircraft design is not specific to Xbox/PC versions).

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I’m on PC and what i can see that happens when i press CTRL+F10 in any aircraft my camera goes back and away from the cockpit. Binding to any other key doesn’t work even if i create another profile.

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Can confirm that this bug is still present with su10 on msfs PC store version

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Are you using Developer Mode or made changes in it?

no

Have you disabled/removed all your mods and addons?

yes

Brief description of the issue:

When saving vfr pilot view (CTRL + 10) on c152 aerobat or bell 407, CTD

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Detailed steps to reproduce the issue encountered:

Hit CTRL +10 when in C152 aerobat or bell 407 cockpit

PC specs and/or peripheral set up if relevant:

amd ryzen 3600, rtx 2070, win 10

Build Version # when you first started experiencing this issue:

Sim update 11 for bell 407

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Using CTRL-F10 to Set VFR Pilot View also crashes the sim in the Carenado C337.

Given the 3+ minute startup time for the sim, I am very reluctant to test all the aircraft that this bug affects.

I recall experiencing it once before months ago it another aircraft that wasn’t the C337 or the C152 Aerobat.

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Bug is corrected, I’m on SU12 beta.

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:wave: Thank you for using the Bug section, using templates provided will greatly help the team reproducing the issue and ease the process of fixing it.

Are you using Developer Mode or made changes in it?

No

Have you disabled/removed all your mods and addons?

Yes

Brief description of the issue:

ctd when using save vfr pilot view.

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Post CTD.

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Just being cheeky :slight_smile: screenshot not needed.

Detailed steps to reproduce the issue encountered:

Only happens on the 152 Aerobat, all liveries:
First time setting a custom view on the Aerobat.
-Consistant and fully repeatable on every attempt.
(5 attempts & pc is rebooted/msfs restarted between attempts)
-Also tested 152,172, 172-G1000 today with no ctd and all saved correctly. Most other default ac have been previously set with no issues and view saved properly. No ctds & no changes to method used.

PC specs and peripheral set up:

See my profile for details.

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Fault bucket 1767491429691097076, type 5 (Exception code c0000005. if it helps)

Build Version # when you first started experiencing this issue:

1.30.12.0

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Came to post this very issue. Aerobat only. Works fine in other small aircraft. This is a reproduceable error and I’m unable to save the custom cockpit view using the Keyboard Shortcut as is expected.

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Do you have the same issue if you follow the OP’s steps to reproduce it?

Yes exactly.

Provide extra information to complete the original description of the issue:

I’ve reproduced it several times. A hard CTD or a “lockup” occurs when using the keyboard shortcut to save the current cockpit view VFR in the Premium Deluxe version when using the Cessna 152 Aerobat. Other aircraft do not create the same issue.

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Not applicable

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Fault bucket 1333320444238200442, type 5

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Additional:

It’s not just the default mappings for VFR Pilot Save View that causes the ctd.
Any custom mappings, key stoke, button or other will cause the ctd.

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Do you have the same issue if you follow the OP’s steps to reproduce it?

no (can only test with the Bell 407 since I have the standard edition)

Provide extra information to complete the original description of the issue:

starting on a runway, pressing CTRL F10 does not lead to a CTD
Maybe just an issue with the Premium Deluxe version ? if some users that have it can still reproduce ?

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Do you have the same issue if you follow the OP’s steps to reproduce it?

No

Provide extra information to complete the original description of the issue:

I originally contributed to this thread and had experienced the issue. I have just tested this on the 152 Aerobat and did not experience a CTD.

SU15 Beta 1.37.8.0

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Moved to User Support Hub Crashes (CTDs) since cannot be reproduced with the C152 Aerobat & Bell 407. It is an old report, maybe something has been fixed with that specific view saving functionality.