DC Designs AV-8B Harrier II Discussion thread

They are super responsive over on Discord server, but think we get more users on this. shame MS can’t let 3rd parties work with MS customers on stuff, especially when their planes are on marketplace as well, along with the fact, the problems might be on MS Asobo side that are effecting all planes, but found here.

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Plenty of flight manuals at this site. Unfortunately, they’re named all sort of things, so search for harrier, av-8 av-8a av-8b etc

aviationarchives.blogspot.com/search?q=AV-8B

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Dean could edit the first post… :person_shrugging:

I don’t understand at all what the ■■■■ is about. Everyone is allowed to add their two cents here, but not the developer ??? :man_facepalming: :woman_facepalming: :person_facepalming:

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Picked this up today. Great fun! Flies beautifully and the VTOL / Hovering is pretty intuitive. Found a couple of situations where it didn’t behave quite as I would expect but I’m not sure really.

One time I was hovering at zero forward speed, nozzle at just over 90deg. I pitched the nose down maybe 30 degrees (quite a lot) and the forward speed didn’t start to increase for a lot longer than seems plausible. Also the HUD speed reading stayed at zero even when I did definitely start moving forwards. Maybe it’s subtracting equal tail wind or something but I don’t think that was the case.

I noticed similar in the Cabri when the speed said 40 but I was only creeping forward, but into a 39/41 headwind. Maybe this is doing the opposite lol.

Still, great and unique experience and a lot more fun than hovering the very digital FBW F35B!

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just uploaded three paints for it:
VMAT-203:
203-003 by JanKees Blom, on Flickr

Italian Navy:
marina 05 by JanKees Blom, on Flickr

Imaginary Dutch Navy:
kmar 05 by JanKees Blom, on Flickr

but I still can’t find that pilot. Avatars set to default, crew visibility ON, but still nothing. Any ideas?

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The pilot figure seems to be associated with Pilot 2 (under Options>General>Miscellaneous) for some reason. If it’s set to default, you won’t see a pilot. But if you select one of the pilot avatars, you will. Either of the military pilots works well. The other options are more, um, exotic. Took me awhile to figure out why I was seeing the female civilian pilot in external view. That’s why. Hope this helps.

I appreciate your insight. In the helicopters, with the new CFD simulation, the helicopter is impacted by the airflow hitting the ground. I’ll play around with the visuals to see what happens with the Harrier, but was wondering if someone had a definitive answer.

It would be great if the effect of reingestion and “cobblestones” were simulated, but this would require a lot of very special coding that I don’t think you’re going to find here.

For instance, on a slow landing the jet fountain hits the horizontal stab about when you get into ground effect.

That means that on every slow landing your nose will pitch forward and you will need to correct with back stick.

That’s not something that I’ve seen in any Harrier sim as it would require flow dynamics beyond the general model that some sims have.

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Strangely, setting all my pilots to default and restarting the sim restored the default DC designs pilot.

Interesting that you found it was tied to the second pilot.

Has anyone tried messing around with the pilot weight? By default, there is a weight for both the pilot and an “instructor” despite the fact that the T-bird isn’t modeled here. :thinking:

Actually, now that you mention it, I did try zeroing out the weight for the instructor - at which point I was left with an empty cockpit. So maybe that was how Jankees (@pby5a) wound up with an uncrewed aircraft. The full solution for me was to leave the instructor weight at 200 lbs and then select the right pilot from the Pilot 2 list. Strange, but it worked. I’ll have to try the reset to default and restart, and see what happens.

my nozzle keep going to the down position automatically, when i move it up it goes back down, whats the cause?

Not having fun unfortunately. Any kind of attempt at hovering causes the nose to point vertically, and the jet just falls out of the sky. Normal operation is fine, but I can’t get the hover to behave properly at all. Tried mapping the thrust nozzle input to prop hi/lo, but that doesn’t give incremental nozzle control, just 0 degrees or 90 degrees.

Any tips for a total Harrier noob?

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Sounds like you might have a conflict on your prop pitch axis (the one that controls the nozzle position). Check to see if there’s a second prop pitch axis assigned somewhere on your hardware, or a button that’s setting your prop pitch to max (which equals 90 degrees of thrust). Axes and buttons can sometimes be assigned randomly during updates, so it’s always worth checking. Hope this gives you a start.

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Do you have a hardware lever available? If so, assign it to propeller pitch and you should be OK. Prop pitch controls the nozzles by default. You might need to reverse the axis (in controller options) to get the lever working in the same direction as the one in the cockpit. An axis will give you a full range of nozzle motion. The button you’re using toggles between minimum and maximum, so there’s no middle ground. Hope this helps.

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The Harrier is amazing fun - sounds and feels great, and really enjoying taking it into all sorts of inappropriate places. Once mistake I made this morning - don’t enable the fuel dump switches instead of the fuel pumps during startup, or you’ll end up with a nasty surprise just after takeoff! :joy: :parachute:

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So we need “Propeller pitch” to be assigned to 2 Buttons? For example 13 and 14 on the hotas one?

I got the “Small” + and - assigned to the rudder rocker on the throttle like this:

Gives you the control without removing your hands off anything. I have rudder pedals so I’m not using that rocker for rudder.

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You were right i had the propeller pitch link on my throttle. I clear the keybind now is good.

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Ok, so I got that sorted, but why is the hover mode so ridiculously unstable?

Has anyone been able to reliably and consistently transition from forward flight to hover for VTOL landing? I can’t seem to get the jet to behave consistently at all…it either wants to go nose up or nose down all the way until it subsequently either falls out of the sky, or shoots up backward.

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