Hi. I know of a few developers that have shifted their priorities to MSFS over the last year. In some instances, it seems the developers have abandoned P3D or X-Plane outright. For example, Aerosoft has shifted their priorities to MSFS as Aerosoft has said P3D sales have dropped off a cliff:
There is a serious amount of users of P3D and they were all very willing to buy add-ons, but they stopped buying add-ons in early 2020.
And then I saw the discussion here about FlyTampa abandoning P3D for KATL (but FlyTampa is releasing products for MSFS so it seems they are focusing on MSFS now and not P3D).
Do you know of any other developers that have abandoned (or shifted their priorities) from P3D or X-Plane, to MSFS?
FS 2020 is a WONDERFUL program as long as you’re not interested in using it for anything other than a game. We STILL can’t set up a proper “wrap-around” home cockpit with FS 2020. You know, like we can with that “obsolete” XP.
Good job at making my point. If you think that is what it SHOULD look like, have at it.
The first video is just a single monitor screen capture. The second looks so bad it would be funny if not so sad.
Pause that second video at about 3 minutes in. See those buildings being stretched out in the right hand screen? That’s the problem we can’t “fix” with the current version of FS 2020 but a piece of cake to fix in XP.
I think both look fine and are good examples of home cockpits that work with MSFS.
BTW, it doesn’t change the fact that P3D is becoming obsolete and X-Plane is also on the path of becoming obsolete.
You realize that FSX is obsolete but works with many home cockpits, right? So according to your logic, because FSX works with so many cockpits, it can’t be obsolete. But FSX is obsolete, despite working with so many home cockpits.
and how big do you think the amount of homecockpitbuilders are, just a handful,
i sure do admire those peeps.
but it will be less than 1 % of the msfs users.
i am sure at some time proper multiscreen will come available.
I agree. The number of cockpit builders is probably a small percentage of flight simulator users. I doubt they will make or break the market for flight simulators.
It depends on the number of P3D and X-Plane users that will purchase new products. For example, FSX is still around but almost no developers port their planes to it because the number of purchases they get for FSX is really, really, poor. P3D appears to be headed in this direction of FSX. X-Plane may not be too far behind P3D.
Competition is healthy in all industries, so I definitely think there is room for multiple products (Naturally they can vary in size).
What MSFS is doing, is to push the industry forward with new technologies and ideas. I really think that is necessary as flight simming gone rather stale.
This will push everyone to do better really
Without doubt MSFS in in charge and I’m thrilled for the journey ahead. Now it’s up to the competition to try and keep up.
Getting rid of competition is a nightmare scenario for users.
I for one hope at least Xplane sticks around and improves their weather and lighting systems. I already have Ortho4xp, so all ms2020 has is better trees, weather and lighting.
Having competition will keep MS on their toes and we all win!
My thoughts are that there are things that MSFS still cannot do and as a result, there are still a portion of simmers that have not moved over to MSFS because of it. Once MSFS starts to implement those short comings, some of those people will move over. Either way, there will always be a subset of people that, for various reasons, will stay with the legacy sims, keeping them alive.
That requires using nVidia Surround in order to create 1 giant display from the 3 monitors. The issue is that as you get out towards the 2 side monitors, the image is stretched and distorted. It CAN be done, but looks terrible.
X-Plane does it right where it allows you to essentially have multiple, separate camera views that don’t distort and assign those to different screens. That’s what we’re waiting for in MSFS, if:
a. they get around to it in any reasonable time frame
b. implement is properly (as in, how X-Plane did it)
I had FSX for many years and then I stopped simming due to not having a PC. I had tried XP9/10 during that same time but it didn’t appeal to me because it seemed more complex as far as the UI and figuring out how to get addons installed and working properly. You know, sometimes we don’t want to take the time to learn new things, we just want what we’re used to. When I finally built a new PC in I think 2018, I built it specifically to give XP11 a go. It had been many years since I used any simulator so I didn’t have the bias so much towards one over the other and would have to re-learn everything, and XP seemed to have more free addons than any other simulator. It is still problematic to get things working, especially scenery, and sometimes adding a new airport would require an entire re-write of the config files. And the performance wasn’t that great until the update to Vulkan came out. With enough addons, it looks pretty good with some obvious holes missing. MSFS, in my opinion, blows XP out of the water even completely default. The visuals and the weather in particular are spectacular and I don’t have really ANY performance issues (except sometimes but even then it’s not noticeable much). I’ve tried to use XP again if I want some certain plane or addon but I can’t get past how it looks and performs on my hardware. I’ve even tried FSX again on my system and it just looks horrible out of the box and the performance is worse than XP even still, 15 years later. IIRC P3D wasn’t much different for me in that aspect, either.
That said, I’m glad that there are companies that are moving towards this new platform. I don’t think they should abandon the legacy titles, especially if they are also doing Xplane stuff because people won’t leave that for a while for reasons, but I do think FSX is history now. I’m just looking forward to some of the Xplane devs to release a few things for MSFS, namely FSRealistic and RealityXP for GPS units. I’d really like one dev to port their plane over to MSFS since it’s the one I use in my RW training. It’s really the only reason I still have XP installed so I can practice drills in the same plane I train in, using the simulator.
I still look for Asobo to make multiscreen an option so that maybe if I have the extra time/money I can build a simple home cockpit. There’s obviously money in it, otherwise no one would make parts or components for it. I just can’t get other sims to work well enough in performance to do this currently.
Personally I kept xplane to use periodically but p3d is Uninstalled for good. I don’t miss babysitting it’s bugs and constantly trying to make it look better.
If you think that is what it SHOULD look like, have at it.