Discussion: October 8th, 2020 Development Update

That’s probably updating the AI scenery. In the Q&A video, they explained how they try to obtain the latest satellite imagery (often from government sources, apparently), and then generate the scenery from that. That’s why the scenery can change after an update.

It should be a lesson to the community to learn HOW TO VOTE.

Asobo isn’t wrong imo. They’re addressing the top voted issues. People cared more about “ATC Incorrect Phraseology” than “A320 left engine starts, then it dies”. They gave us the tool to communicate with them, isn’t their fault people use it incorrectly


It’s a shame, once again the paying customer is allowed to act as a beta tester. Nothing new actually.

Enough people have already written something on the subject. What is really a shame that Asobo gives a **** about the Premium Deluxe buyers. The most important problems that need to be fixed are not even in the pipeline. It shows me and of course all other Premium Deluxe buyers that the problems eg. even with the Citation Longitude either are so serious that it means an immense effort to fix them. Or it just isn’t a priority. No matter what it is now, both are catastrophic. Here is a message to Asobo: I don’t care if there are new planes. I don’t care if we get new airports or scenery or fancy new ■■■■ to buy. FIX the Deluxe Premium Content and hopefully the other Bugs so we can all play! Before that, you won’t get any more money from me.


I like the press any key. it at least confirms that it isn’t stuck while loading and also it gives you something to do. Are people afraid of exercising their fingers. The worst part for me is the long wait before anything appears to happen at the beginning. I still occasionally get the message that it is already running. Indicating that I have tried to start it twice because I didn’t think that I had clicked on the icon properly.


Hello everyone, I just updated the simulator and when I restart it again, notice that it has erased all my scenaries and airplanes. How can I recover all the airplanes that come with the Premiun version?

Welcome @GoofyCoast33995! One place to check would be the Known Issues link at the top of the site. According to that link:

“Only 2 aircraft”
Installing the base sim using a different installation folder than the default folder will only download the mandatory content. To install the non-mandatory content, please do the following:

Step 1: Go to Profile > Content Manager
Step 2: Select the content you want to see in the sim
Step 3: Download and install the content you selected
Step 3: Reboot your computer
Step 4: Launch Microsoft Flight Simulator

Hopefully this fixes your problem…

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thanks so much

Ck3 is a lot of parameter/value tweaking, and that patch also did introduce its own set of regression (ie around the AI).

It’s not comparable to building a realistic aerodynamic system that interacts with a realistic weather system, which also interacts multiple different aircraft in multiple different ways. They’re also simulating an entire product line that sells for TENS OF thousands of dollars by itself (Garmin devices) in game (imagine if ‘The Sims’ had to simulate a working/realistic iPhone in game).

Also I imagine they want to slow down a bit and get things right (ie, less dev more test) since they did introduce some regressions last patch.

This is a ten year project. Relax a bit, play something else for a while, come back and check it out later.


Please Asobo, bring to us some realism in the weather with a better deal with the turbulence!
For instance:
PABR METAR 100154Z 08028G33KT 4SM -SN OVC015 M01/M04 A2974 RMK AO2 PK WND 08033/0154 P0000 T10111039** the sim provided accuracy temp/winds/pressure, good point BUT:
In those severe weather conditions that are very unsafe for aviation, flying a C172 as I just did feels like flying on the rails which is not even close to the minimum of realism required! … It’s way toooooo gentle that it kills the immersion at the end even if there is some pleasure to fly around…

Please give us what you did promise in advertising videos as “meteorological phenomena as never seen so far in any sim” quote of Asobo video. (not my words) I did the test with Xplane/Active sky, I wasn’t able to take the B737 off! Of course! Just because it’s impossible to T/O and land in this kind of weather, but the C172 MFS2020 can!
Could someone explain that to me?

That will be very immersive if we can get an update that compensate this lack of realism in order to have better physic/dynamic/turbulence and direct effects on the envelope of the bird etc… My wish!
See how it goes in my short video to illustrate my point. It sounds unrealistic at 100%, hopefully it will be considered for future patches and updates even if i understand that there’s not a lot of users who care about realism/weather based on the wish-list but I’m sure that I’m not the only one who care very much about it! :wink:

Ok so did you notice I said the substance and not a direct comparison? I don’t need to be lectured on things nor told to go play something else.

If you read the whole post I did it was about substance and the idea of slowing down new features.

I have been very supportive of Asobo and even defended them on numerous occasions.

And just for reference a game like CK3 with how the AI interacts with a human player is every bit as complex as coding a simulator, harder in some respects.

Simulating characters that actually act like a human is just as complex as a 10k Garmin. Quit acting like simulators are the hardest thing known to man to copy in a game.

I am a supporter and I am having loads of fun. I am not a fan fanboy but nor am I one who will complain about every little error.

Take posts in context before you respond next time. Thanks.

Thanks. That works. Unfortunately because of drone horizon tilting effect, when aircraft in focus passes by, that is unusable. Thanks anyway.

Will it optimize performance? Can you increase FPS? Can you eliminate stuttering? Why does every update avoid optimization?

I seem to remember in the first(?) update they claimed they had changed several things which gave a “significant” improvement in performance (i.e. fps), and in a subsequent update they allowed users to set the “Glass cockpit refresh rate”, which was believed to be affecting fps in some planes.

Whether they succeeded or not is open for discussion, but they certainly are aware this is a major concern.

I am a little disappointed that they haven’t even started trying to fix the number one issue on the list. The other fixes do not appear to major improvements IMHO. They should just roll back to the previous version. Was more stable than the current build. I hope the update next week brings a more positive experience for everyone. Have a nice weekend :sunglasses:

Trying to increase from 31FPS to 34FPS by means without any scientific basis, this dare to be called optimization?

Can you exapnd? How is it unusable? What are you trying to achieve?

I have no idea what you are trying to say here. I think most people would say they have seen some improvement in stability and stuttering and probably FPS too in patch 2 and patch 3. A lot of the complaints are that in doing so, some people perceive that visuals are downgraded (but not a universal view by any means) and that this is cause and effect (and hence not viewed as optimisation).

In the Q&A, they talked about changing their mind on improving the Garmin(s). Hence until now they have been doing others things. I think once teams finish the dev sprints they are on and finish the feature sets/bugs they are working on they will move onto the Garmin. Which is why it looks like they’ve not started it yet.

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Do a flyby view and the drone tilts the horizon 90 degrees or more (most of the time)…

I must admit I too am not sure what you’re saying here.

As a part-time software engineer, I know you rarely find a single “optimization”. It is often a question of nibbling away at a problem, gaining a bit here and a bit there. A gain of 3fps (which may or may not be what you’re suggesting has happened), if repeated in every patch, will mean everyone will end up happy.

And I don’t really know what you mean by “scientific basis”. Programming is inherently scientific, and all professional programmers use the scientific method to solve problems.

The main point that everyone should keep in mind (including myself) is that everyone has a different set-up - not just the the hardware, but the FS2020 settings, the Windows settings, the drivers used, the planes flown, the area (and height) flown etc. What helps one person may actually cause problems with another, for example dumbing down the scenery would excite those requiring higher fps, but disappoint those interested in sight-seeing. It is for these reasons that there is such a wide disparity in user experience, as voiced in this forum.

As with life in general, you will need to take what enjoyment you can get, and be happy.