Discussion + Poll: Sim Update IV (


I forget report PERFECT feature of Vatsim aircrafts show on display :slight_smile:

Seems Gaming Services is a hot mess for quite a few people trying to download it (myself included). Several solutions offered up in this and other forums, so far, none of which work for me. Mildly agitated…

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can confirm that now buildings are not correct also to my opinion, especially typical apartment houses (in previous places) now stay there old more floor houses with roof. also my apartment house is missing :slight_smile: it existed from day 1 and don’t know when it was deleted (as some update feature).

I can’t swear to this but am pretty sure the buildings are procedural using BlackShark AI. Any tweaks to their procedures could then cause changes to appearance of lots of buildings.

After the update the ground looks terrible when flying at high altitude. So blurry!!!.. Before the update the visuals had much better quality.

I love MSFS but Im not happy after the last update :triumph:. Even I feel the performance is a little bit worse than before.

Someone has the same impressions as I have about the blurry terrain and performance degradation?

Happy sunday!!!

That altitude is now 20000 feet. They changed the texture approach distance. Depending on the distance between a texture and you, the texture will be blurred. In the end you’ll see an average color. With the last update, they shifted the lowest detail texture downward. You now get a detail level at 21000 feet what you previously saw at 41000 feet. And (in theory!) FpS should improve, there is less texture data. This measure gives also better details at lower altitudes… but indeed… suddenly it looks worse at 20000 feet. At 19900 feet it looks better. There are lots of complaints about it, so maybe they’ll put 35000 next update ? It’s just a number…


Thanks for the answer. Now I understand why it looks bad when flying abobe FL200.

If Asobo did it to have better performance it was unsuccessful. I hope they fix the visiuals soon.


Everyone with awful performance, I mean like barely reaching 25 fps, can I just ask what graphics settings you are using, as well as where you fly and what planes? I have a mid range, budget gaming rig, and I consistently get 30-60 fps. I am on Medium settings, with clouds and reflections on high, and some of the smaller stuff like ambient occlusion, contact shadows on low. In my opinion, my game looks and feels amazing. I typically fly to, from, and around Toronto CYYZ, Montreal CYUL, Ottawa CYOW and sometimes around Vancouver CYVR. I also mostly fly the Citation Longitude and the Beech Baron. I just can’t imagine why you guys would be having such awful performance, with most the time having a better PC than me! I really want to know, am I just getting lucky, or have my settings tuned perfectly for my rig, maybe just certain areas of the world have bad performance, or maybe some people being too demanding for graphics? Please share your thoughts and I wish you all to have great visuals and performance in the future.
Have fun flying! (Or at least try)


You are probably not TRYING to run on a 4K Monitor ?

4x the size, 1/4 the speed …

The problem with comparing fps rates with other simmers is that there are so many variables you have to consider–not only hardware variations, but other software settings and configurations. Also, fps varies with type of aircraft, weather conditions, altitude, location,etc. as well as the player’s expectations.

You can’t say “I’m having a terrible experience so this sim sucks.” You also can’t say “I’m having a great experience so this sim is perfect.”

Personally, I’m enjoying every second I spend in this game, but I had to go through lots of stress and trial and error to get to this point. I have a lot of sympathy with those who are in the midst of the battle.


No I’m not trying to run it on a 4k monitor, but even if I had one I wouldn’t. 1080p is just fine for most flight simmers, myself included. In my opinion we all need to take a step back with the performance, especially if you’re trying to run it 4k ultra (exaggeration but I’m sure thats the case for some). Our hopes are far too high.
The problem is that it’s less about FLYING, and all about scenery, with the exception of issues such as incorrect SIDs and STARs, live weather, and a few others actually pertaining to flying aircraft, running the sim.
Remember, aviate, navigate, communicate, and only after that can you worry about scenery :wink:


I understand the abundance of variables., it’s extremely frustrating and I feel for those that have not yet figured it out.
I agree with you 100%, especially the last line.

maybe, this is the cause:
We performed some optimization for the initial full download of the title so the base game is only 83GB instead of +170GB
how many things have been removed to reduce by 2 the size of the package?

For the most part all they seem to have done was move non mandatory content from the initial install to the content manager. So the initial download is smaller, but after downloading from the content manager the full installation size is roughly the same.

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ok, i see.

Now Base game is some 100GB smaller, and updates are some 100GB BIGGER.

You can’t get something for nothing !! :worried:

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Why is everyone getting so hyped for this update. It really didn’t fix anything.
Where’s the performance improvements?


The update improved mine to the point it won’t start.

That’s probably your answer there. I can’t speak for everyone but mine and a lot of people’s performance issues come from the airliners, 787 especially.
I have a i7 9700 and RTX 3070 and can just about scrape a stuttery 30 fps in the airliners (bigger airports like KJFK, KLAX, EGLL etc and cities its usually around 10-20 with massive stutters, but small jets and props i can easily get a smooth 40-60fps mostly anywhere.

As for my settings i play on high mostly (cockpit screen refresh rate low) but lowering doesn’t make any significant difference because it’s a main thread limit problem in the airliners.

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I just would like to roll back.

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