Does the DOFReality motion system really make a difference?

So you have the H6, and wouldn’t buy it again but also wouldn’t do without motion, so what would you use instead? I thought the H6 was the top of the line other than the more heavy duty P6.

DOFReality website:

Tax is usually the standard import tax for your country. We use HS code 9504 50 00 00 for the declaration.

Bit of research shows that there is no import or excise duty, however there will be VAT on top of the product and on the shipping fees.

See here:
https://www.trade-tariff.service.gov.uk/commodities/9504500000

The DOFReality order form allows you to price up everything.

Having personally purchased a DOF reality H3 from them I didn,t had to pay any additional charges (regardless of whether it’s VAT or import duty) because they shipped from Poland to Ireland both of which are whithin the EU. Last time I checked the UK isn’t within the EU so they will be subject to additional charges. Having also bought accessories from them which shipped from Ulraine I was subject to additional import fees.

The H6 is ejection-seat-level strong… I’d just look for a different brand. (Have no idea what else is out there.) The jerkiness is a bummer, and it’s a function of the physical components. I.e. no way around it via software. Probably great for being slung around a racetrack… But for slow pitching & rolls, not so much.

Thump, thump, thump, thump…

Plus the instructions / support is non existent. You’ll get a reply, but it’s always “Look at video. Read instructions.”

WHAT INSTRUCTIONS?!? :joy:

:man_facepalming:

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Yeah, unfortunately this is correct. I ordered the H6 and was really surprised that all I got for paperwork was a bunch of DOF Reality stickers and a printed copy of the screw sizes for comparison. There’s a video of the install on YT, but if I didn’t have access to the interwebs I’d have been out of luck.

After receiving the product and unboxing, the first two pieces I tried to put together were machined incorrectly, so it didn’t fit. Wonderful. Then there was missing pieces. Again, wonderful. After a weekend of serious negative experiences I finally got it assembled. But there were a few issues;

  1. The HOTAS option I purchased is really for the H3 frame. There’s only one place to put it on the H6 frame that I could find. It’s in a awkward location.
  2. The Buttkicker addon’s post is too narrow and the device won’t stay attached. Just slides out and fall on the floor. So you need to ■■■ something to the post which dampens the effect.
  3. It’s dangerous. I just tried Elite Dangerous and thought I was going to get killed.

Overall it was a very bad purchase for me. Like N582TC states, it’s jerky and problematic. Documentation is woefully inadequate and support isn’t much better.

As far as I’m concerned I payed $6,500.00US for 300lbs of iron ballast for my basement.

Yeah, I’m that happy about it.

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Oh man, sorry to hear that =(
Do they take returns?

Doss anyone know whether the H2 or H3 also have this jerkiness issue?

The H3 I have does have this jerky motion. I had contacted DOF thinking the issue was a mis calibration of the gearboxes or something but nope. It’s inherent of the gearbox design. I was told that an upgrade to the SFU gearboxes would sort the jerkiness so I forked out another $485 including shipping in the hope that will sort it. Waiting for them to arrive as I speak.

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I certainly hope the SFU upgrade works for you. From the posts that I’ve seen it really does make a difference. The H3 design is quite different than the H6, so that’s really a benefit. My H6 has all SFU so my issue may be with my platform somehow. Maybe even the controller boxes. They disconnect after a few min sometimes, which is really annoying. There are no returns since the company is out of Warsaw, Poland and the manufacturing is in Ukraine. (At least I think there are no returns, but the shipping is $1,000.00 so that’s one reason not to return it.) So it’s a one-way roll of the dice.

Good luck with the SFU upgrades. I’m sure it’ll be better than what you currently have.

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Thanks a mil. I’m sorry you’re having such issues with the H6. The point you made about it possibly being a controller box issue? Is it possible it could be the USB connection from the controller box to the PC? I was having issues with with my haptic seat pad cutting out after a few mins because it was connected to a 7 port powered hub. A soon as I moved it to a direct USB port on the PC the issue went away. Something to try at least. Don’t give up trying to find a resolution with DOF themselves either. Best of luck with it.

Holy shyt

Glad I’m in Europe in case I ever want one. Not for a few years though, don’t have the space atm.

Unfortunately not. The SFU gearboxes are what I have.

Anyone tried YAWVR2 instead?

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Sorry you’ve had such a negative experience. I concur though RE the lack of instructions. I had to guess a few of the steps, my parts were different to the video, missing a couple of bolts, etc.

In all honesty it’s not really a ‘consumer’ product I guess, you have to get your hands dirty and it will never be perfect. For a platform with real smooth performance, from what I’ve seen, you’re talking 25k+ :frowning:

I would recommend spending some playing with the tuning, it is possible to iron out most of the bumps, unfortunately slow banks, etc. are always going to be a problem. I tend to have most fun thrashing a Typhoon through the Scottish Valleys, so not so much slow banking there.

It will take different profiles for different aircraft or types of flying. You really have a choice for how to handle small movements - no movement, small jerky movement, or large non-jerky movement. I can’t say I full understand what I’m doing when tuning, it’s mostly trial and error.

This is what I am using at the moment profile-wise, hope it helps:


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Thanks for sharing your profile. MSFS is the worst of the bunch for judders it seems. I have an H3 and, while it is great fun, I’m not able to pretend the juddering isn’t there. It’s not a problem at all in sim racing (cars) which is what these rigs are made for. If I had $25,000, I would invest in actuators and a Next Level Racing motion rig set up. But for now, this is fun and part of a hobby that I love. I do wish the movement was smoother though. I can’t believe people who say there’s is totally smooth. I have the same unit with SFU motors, so how can it be totally smooth?

I am in the same exact situation, looking to replace my Honeycomb Alpha with a Brunner yoke and wondering how to replace the switches I’ll be losing. I have the H2. Looking at the Logitech switch panel or even something like the Virpil control panel. Which switch panel did you choose and how did you end up mounting it to your P3 frame?

I am so disappointed about the H3 + SFU. I only fly airliners and these slow turns feel like someone is turning a knob with big step increments: thump thump thump thump thump
It’s totally no use for me.
What am I doing with it now…?

That is the juddering / stepping issue. Supposedly, there will be a software fix for it. That’s why I’m holding off any purchase and rather consider going the actuators route.

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Is it really a software issue? In that case it would be telemetry and there could be a chance.
I’m afraid it’s a rig/motor problem…

That’s what Igor (CEO) of DOF Reality said in the GYOG interview: EM 10004 Video NA RunEscape GunShot TsktpkV1 Nor Q F NA EN PC A bluedemo (youtube.com)

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Thanks for the video, but what I read from that is “The controllers used are low resolution Arduinos and IF (and it didn’t sound like he was convinced) they can realize a higher resolution with these newfangled digital controllers they might use them in the future.”

I.e. those of us who have Arduino based systems are S.O.L. sigh

(But I’m still not convinced the digital controllers he mentioned are a real thing…)

Just my two cents. :person_shrugging:t3: Not dishing on you. Just needed a place to post. :+1:t2: