I am trying to use EFB popped out in a real tablet. To do that, I am using the program spaceDeskConsole to extend my desktop to an Android tablet. I pop out the EFB, and just move it to the tablet screen.
This part works like a charm. Some days ago, a performance bug with the popped out EFB was solved, and now it runs OK.
And the really good news is that it seems to have some touch-screen support! You can move the map, or use the buttons. But… I don’t know if the touch interface is something that “just happened”, and the program thinks that it is just a mouse; or if it is made on purpose and then… it is quite buggy. I have identified some issues:
Buttons don’t work as one would spect. Tapping on them is not enough, you have to do some multiple taps on them.
In the map, standard gesture with two fingers to zoom in or out is not recognized. And this would be something extremely cool to have!
You can move the map with the finger, but, somehow, only one screen away from the aircraft position. If you reach the border of the screen and lift your finger to tap it again and continue the movement, the map rearranges itself when you tap again, bringing the aircraft position back to the screen.
After using the touch screen, the control focus remains somehow in the tablet, and not even the HOTAS works until you give the focus back to the main screen (using the mouse)
YOUR SETTINGS
Peripherals used:
Android 13 tablet, conected via USB-C and spaceDeskConsole
T.16000 HOTAS
Logitech rudder pedals
TrackIR 5
No developer mode
GPU NVIDIA RTX 2070
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As with MSFS2020, touch screen support is not available (natively).
Use MSFS Pop Out Panel Manager (POPM) to complete the pop out process and set it as a touch screen.
This is how we’ve been doing home cockpits with Air Manager since 2020 released.
Also, in Space Desk on your tablet, go into settings, input devices, and ensure you select “Absolute Touch” as it works better than relative for EFB’s.
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Pity, it would have been nice to have native support for touch screens!
Anyway, it seems that MSFS Pop Out has a specific version for MSFS2024; the original MSFS2020 version does not work with MSFS2024. The correct GitHub repository is here:
[Updated] EFB seem to work only like one of the top menus. So you have to check the “Include in-game menu bar for pop out management and touch screen support” option. You will find it in the “Active aircraft” menu.
Then, you have to manually open and pop out the EFB. Once it is in another window, you click the “Start Pop Out” button, and it will recognize and create a new panel automatically. You can then move it to the tablet screen, activate touch controls, hide the title bar…
Touch controls seem to work quite better than without PopOut Manager; now the buttons do their job. Anyway, the touch control is still giving me trouble in map mode. The movement is still clumpsy, and the zoom seem to work only sometimes, and always zooming in, not out. I will go on investigating and will update here any progress.
Hopefully you discover corrections for zooming. I just found that zooming in and out on tablet (using fingers to pinch in and out) causes the main screen (cockpit view) to also zoom in and out.
The author of Pop Out Manager software kindly nswered me, and told me that the SIM part is not prepared to understand the finger gestures that the tablet transmites, so he can’t do much about it
Hi there,
I did not have enough time earlier that year after the issues at launch, but I can confirm that touchscreen issue with popped out instruments in MSFS2024.
I tried on two different PCs, using SpaceDesk on two different iPadOS devices/versions and with real touch screens. Using SimInnovations AirManager or any other software on Windows, touch with SpaceDesk and iPad but also touch on real Touchscreen just works as expected. Single Tap, Double Tap, Double Tap and Drag - no issues.
Start MSFS2024, press down ALT GR and klick on a TouchEFIS like the G3X opens that one in a separate window. Drag that over to the touchscreen and the single tap does not even work properly anymore and operating those becomes a real nightmare. To press a single button on the pop-out touch panel of MSFS 2024, you have to double-tap first - which highlights the button you are doing this on with light-blue – then do a single-tap to actually press the button down. Using the mouse, single click is just working.
Please MS - fix this.
I am using dual touchscreens with SimInnovation AirManager since years already - just putting the pop-outs for GNS530/430/1000 behind AirManager and using the AirManager bezel buttons, flaps, levers, switches, buttons (and one knob per touchscreen, too) - which is very close to the real deal and I am still totally flexible in the simulator rig to emulate different airplane cockpits. I am currently flying on a C152 with Dual G3x Touch in Real, MSFS 2024 has the G3x Touch and I have the hardware - but I cannot really use it…
Whatever you want me to help testing / debugging with, please let me know.
I did the same test in MSFS2020 now: double tap highlights the button in blue, but it is even worse: I have found no way of ‚pressing the button‘ on the touchscreen at all.
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