Description of the issue: The “High Fidelity” even though it’s unrelated to what the tooltip describes, only shows models we own, and the “Simplified” opens up for the rest. The ISSUE here is: it seemingly choose a RANDOM model for everyone, even for models we own. I once got a balloon for a taildragger, and a 767 for an H60. it does not makes sense whatsoever, with no regards for type or size. Every time a model loads, it does this, meaning a group flight where someone gets too far away (unloads model), and you catch up, it’ll choose a new model. (Variety is good they say, but I dunno about that in this case). But whatever you’ve done for the “High Fidelity” for Model Matching, don’t screw it up, because it even matches the (2020) Pelican now, which it hasn’t done EVER since the sim came out last year!
FREQUENCY OF ISSUE
Every group flight (on Simplified), every reload of models, it picks a seemingly random model from my library. Even if you got the model it’s supposed to show.
REPRODUCTION STEPS
Please list clear steps you took in order to help our test team reproduce the same issue:
Load into a group flight (with friends and/or streamer) using “High Fidelity” option. Observe them loading in with the correct model and livery, if any.
When loaded, open up for the rest by going to the options, change to “Simplified”, to load in the rest. Observe them pick a random model from your library.
Let the group get away from you (still on Simplified), then catch up. Observe a reroll of random models, even for those that uses the model you own.
Reload MP (Off, wait for 5 sec, back on) with either HighFid or Simplified to observe the change.
YOUR SETTINGS
If the issue still occurs with no mods and add-ons, please continue to report your issue. If not, please move this post to the User Support Hub.
What peripherals are you using: X56 Hotas
[PC Only] Are you using Developer Mode or have you made any changes to it? No
[PC Only] What GPU (Graphics Card) do you use? RTX3060ti 8GB
[PC Only] What other relevant PC specs can you share? No relevance.
I’ve been having this issue with the model matching too, but I think we can break down to two main issues here.
The model matching rules of simplified needs to be improved significantly or there is a bug that needs to be resolved. From what I understand, simplified only uses the Asobo Passive Models as simplified models. However, either the passive models are too limited or the rules are too incomplete to match the aircraft listed. I had the issue where someone flying the iFly 737 which has an ICAO of B38M which couldn’t be match to the default Asobo 737 Max or an equivalent 737. It was showing up as either a CRJ or PC24 on multiple cycles of multiplayer.
High Fidelity mode isn’t filling in the gaps with the Passive Models. If a high-fidelity model isn’t available, a simplified model should be loaded in it’s place.
FREQUENCY OF ISSUE
Always
REPRODUCTION STEPS
Please list clear steps you took in order to help our test team reproduce the same issue:
Load into a group flight (with friends and/or streamer) using “High Fidelity” option. Observe them loading in with the correct model and livery, if any.
When loaded, open up for the rest by going to the options, change to “Simplified”, to load in the rest. Observe them pick a random model from your library.
Let the group get away from you (still on Simplified), then catch up. Observe a reroll of random models, even for those that uses the model you own.
Reload MP (Off, wait for 5 sec, back on) with either HighFid or Simplified to observe the change.
YOUR SETTINGS
If the issue still occurs with no mods and add-ons, please continue to report your issue. If not, please move this post to the User Support Hub.
What peripherals are you using: Not Applicable
[PC Only] Are you using Developer Mode or have you made any changes to it? No
[PC Only] What GPU (Graphics Card) do you use? RTX3070 8GB
[PC Only] What other relevant PC specs can you share? No relevance.
On my side I see Multiplayer planes only if Simplified option is selected. If I select High fidelity I do not see them at all in the sky or at the airport but i see them on the EFB’s screen. Also, if I do not use VPN a do not see AI traffic (for both Real time and Off-line otions) . I am not sure this is on Asobo or MS Online services side, but my internet provider swears that on their side everything is OK.
Give our Reproduction Steps a go, see if you can reproduce the bug. You’ll need people in the area initially though. If you can find a friend or group flight to test with, that’s more reliant and constant than to expect random encounters.
Your bread and butter in this is: From HighFid, Turn MP off, wait for couple of seconds, turn it back on, in either replication mode. Have your friend or group choose models that you own first, then models you don’t own, play around with the variables and observe. Main issue in HighFid is, if you don’t have the model, it’s not shown. Including liveries.
And it’s client side. This is now a logged bug Fingers crossed it’ll make it to the live build for SU4
Description of the issue: Feedback on this issue post .19 update:
It seems there’s still a bug with the HighFid setting that if you don’t have the model, it won’t show. There’s no fallback to Simplified mode for players in planes I don’t own. Unless that’s the intent. In that case, I’d propose a 3rd setting Balanced, where the models you own gets loaded HighFid, the models you don’t own gets loaded Simplified, best of 2 worlds. Right now it’s either/or, which is horrible in group flights.
At least in simplified now, it loads a model of roughly the same type. I haven’t seen a balloon for a jet yet, so that’s good.
FREQUENCY OF ISSUE
Every group flight (on Simplified), every reload of models, it picks a seemingly random model from my passive library. Even if you got the model it’s supposed to show. On HighFid, it still won’t show models you don’t own.
REPRODUCTION STEPS
Please list clear steps you took in order to help our test team reproduce the same issue:
Load into a group flight (with friends and/or streamer) using “High Fidelity” option. Observe them loading in with the correct model and livery, if any.
When loaded, open up for the rest by going to the options, change to “Simplified”, to load in the rest. Observe them pick a random model from your passive library.
Let the group get away from you (still on Simplified), then catch up. Observe a reroll of random models, even for those that uses the model you own.
Reload MP (Off, wait for 5 sec, back on) with either HighFid or Simplified to observe the change.
YOUR SETTINGS
If the issue still occurs with no mods and add-ons, please continue to report your issue. If not, please move this post to the User Support Hub.
What peripherals are you using: X56 Hotas
[PC Only] Are you using Developer Mode or have you made any changes to it? No
[PC Only] What GPU (Graphics Card) do you use? RTX3060ti 8GB
[PC Only] What other relevant PC specs can you share? No relevance.
Still an Issue on 1.6.21.0.
Today during Fly-In-Friday.
On “Simplified”, I could only see a player, if it was a default plane, but with simplyfied not well matching model. C400 showed as dual prop default plane.
On “High Fidelity” I couldn’t see anyone, not even nametags, even if it was a default plane (same players as before).
Model matching in Simplified is rather worse than in the last beta. A Double Ender was shown as changing passenger jets in Simplified. In High Fidelity, however, the model was correct.
I think that’s the purpose of Simplified. As simple as possible, loading the passive aircraft. (even if you have the plane in question), as stated by others in this thread, duely adopted by me, the OP
The issue is High Fidelity don’t have a fallback for planes we don’t have, as posted by others here.
(I realise that’s not what I’ve said in the OP, but at least it’s bug-logged, as in it’s not behaving as intended)
(So the norm should be High Fidelity, but simplified for those who struggle with performance, if I understand this setting correctly)
Tested it today with a buddy from group flight group
Positives on the new system we load in if we change at an airport correct model and livery if add-on is owned by the other player
Cons any aircraft unowned player is invisible for the other - tested by originally 500c by taogs both owned so both showed up I switched to mh60 while he waited I showed up as mh60 mate then swapped to mh60 and showed up correct I went to me109 as knew most in the group don’t own it and my nameplate didn’t show up and nothing seen in the world but was on his efb
Fingers crossed it’ll make it to the live build for SU4