Flight Replicas Spitfire Mk. V

Nothing outright bad, just it doesn’t look as crisp & polished as the FI version. Perhaps less polygons?

VC (00003) by JanKees Blom, on Flickr

VC (00004) by JanKees Blom, on Flickr

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Oh please…

Oh yes, my bad. They are exactly the same obviously…

Nasty to fly not a patch on AH or FI i will be deleting these shame really as their Fox moth is quite nice

Personally, I’m loving this, not sure what is so bad about it.

So a few more paints I did for it, all Spitfires that flew in Malta, 1942:
VC VS(00007) by JanKees Blom, on Flickr

185 sqn (00000) by JanKees Blom, on Flickr

185 sqn (00002) by JanKees Blom, on Flickr

T-A(00007) by JanKees Blom, on Flickr

249 sqn (00009) by JanKees Blom, on Flickr

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Because it’s just more money.

In order for me to buy it, it would have to be better than Flying Iron’s, and have such amenities as a Hobbs meter (or the like in a tablet like FI has), an autopilot (realism doesn’t matter here, it’s uncomfortable for me to hold my stick for long periods) and a range greater than 250 miles. The Market is a bit confusing on this as it lists both 250 and 470, but it would be useless to me if it’s only 250.

Externally it does look fantastic and I admit to being slightly tempted, but I’m worried I’d never fly it for all the above reasons. I read through most of the posts here and while I get the argument against FI’s accuracy, I’ll never know having never seen a Spitfire IRL, much less the interior. I wouldn’t argue with someone who cared about such things, but it holds little weight for me. I’m probably the only one on the forum who will or won’t buy a plane based on an hour meter too :wink: It’s ok! We all have our things.

Edit: Why is one of the Mark V’s 50% more cost than the other? The desert camo would appeal to me more - and that’s the less expensive one.

Getting a stutter every second with this aircraft, in fact the Seafire as well.

Have you tried other aircraft too? Usually that’s an outside issue not the plane or even the sim. It often means something is polling your CPU hard every second or so.

I thought I would post that here, a couple of weeks ago both Spitfire Mk.V packages and the Mk.I package received a flight model update.

Before the update the torque effect was a bit strange. With every small elevator movement, the aircraft would significantly yaw and roll to the side. This was especially noticeable in the Mk.I and Mk.V trop, making vertical maneuvers, or at least clean vertical maneuvers almost impossible as even full rudder deflection wouldn’t be enough to correct the yawing motion. In the standard Mk.V the effect was manageable, but it would still require more rudder during vertical maneuvers than for instance Flying Irons Bf-109, an aircraft that is famous for being challenging during vertical maneuvers in real life.

The torque effect has now been drastically reduced and the yawing motion is now gone for all three variants. I would say in the air the aircraft now feel much closer to Flying Irons Spitfire Mk.IX, which is supposed to be very close to the original (the flight model was tweaked according to BBMF Spitfire pilots and even gets used by the BBMF for some training and familiarization flights).

The Spitfire is a bit tame on the ground now, but I have to say I much prefer a more realistic flight behavior in combination with tamer ground behavior than the other way round.

Overall, the aircraft is very enjoyable and for the prize an absolute steal. Especially when you consider that the airplanes are perfect copies of the original blueprints. And not just that, each livery included in the packages is an individual airframe, incorporating all the field or factory modifications the real aircraft would have had, like different propellers, windshields, mirrors, wheel hubs and so on.

Here is a video I made of an aerobatic display with the Mk.V trop using the new flight model, to show that it is now very capable of vertical maneuvers. To my knowledge Flight Replicas has modeled the drag of the big tropical filter. Which means you’ll run out of energy faster than with the normal carburetor intake, of the standard Mk.V.

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How does it compare with the FI MkIX?

You can check a visual comparison here:

With the new flight model, the flying experience is comparable, albeit with the differences of the different marks. There are some differences at the systems management level, but I’m more focused on the flying than ultra-detailed systems management.

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In short probably the best way to describe it, is that Flight Replicas Spitfires are the more authentic visual representations and Flying Irons Spitfire is the more authentic flying experience.

Flight Replicas are visually perfect representations of the original blueprints. Not just the overall shape is perfect, but you get every small detail that are sometimes missing or a bit simplified in Flying Irons Spitfire (don’t get me wrong I love the FI Mk.IX and think it looks awesome). And as I wrote before each livery that comes with a FR package is an individual modeled airframe, with slight variations like different propellers, wheel hubs, armor plates, and so on.

When it comes to systems depth Flying Irons Spitfire is miles ahead. There isn’t a lot of systems depth to the FR Spitfires, while the FI Spitfire is pretty much or at least very close to study level.

When it comes to the flight model, FR Spitfires now feel very similar to the FI Mk.IX, they are just a bit slower and run out of energy faster. Which has to be expected as they represent earlier, less powerful variants of the Spitfire. I haven’t tested the stall characteristics in either of them for a while, so I can’t compare them outside the normal flight envelope.

When it comes to ground handling the FI Spitfire is more refined and feels more authentic. The FR Spitfires still feel better than a lot of other taildraggers in MSFS, but overall, it’s easier to taxi and especially to takeoff than the FI Spitfire. I would say the landings feel very similar, except that you barely need any rudder to keep the FR Spit going straight.

I’m a massive Spitfire fan and have been following many restoration projects over the years. And love learning about all the small differences between the various aircraft and variants.
So I’m very happy to have many of those variants represented with the FI Mk.IX and all the FR Spitfire and Seafire releases.

I guess the ultimate Spitfire would be a FR visual model, with systems modeling, sounds and flight model by FI and paintschems by Bomber12th =)

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Thanks buddy, you know first hand how i like to fly tge FI Spit. Thanks for the breakdown

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My pleasure =)

Haha yeah! It’ll be interesting to see how the FW-190 does against the Spit over Duxford’s skies :wink:

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Shouldn’t I get a notification within the sim that the Spitfire has an update available? Because I never have. I flew it yesterday in fact and didn’t notice any difference - but then, I wasn’t looking to see if there was a difference.

Yes, you should get a notification via the bell on the top right corner, saying update available. If that isn’t the case you should find it directly via the content manager.

According to Flight Replicas the update was released on 09/19/ for PC and on 10/03/ for Xbox.

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I see no update in my sim for my Spitfire. Looking at the version history it says the only version is 2.0 and it also says I have that. If there was a previous version, it should be listed.

“Should be” being the operative word here. Dev’s are hit and miss at how well they maintain the manifest.json and other information in files… many products stay at version 0.1.0 in the manifest.json for the life of the product, or when the dev forgets…