I’ve not had the AP disconnect like that. The speedbrakes generally work ok for me for hitting speed constraints when i need to. But the aircraft slowing down (without speedbrakes deployed) but in managed mode to the extent I have to go to flaps 1 early then it starts to slow airspeed further instead of descending on vnav profile. VNAV seems to work fine before this happens. I can sometimes find myself at 160-180kts 5 miles before final but too high when I’d really like to be at 200kts but descending instead.
The VLS indicator, which runs up the side of the speed tape tends to move further up, the more speedbrake you extend and when it gets to where your speed is, that’s when the aircraft speeds up.
It’s caught me out a couple of times, so “twice bitten, thrice shy” will need to be my motto from now on. 
On my approach into Cape Town this afternoon I only used speedbrakes 1/3 and it slowed down perfectly while maintaining a proper descent.
I mean… have you seen the plates they glued to that speedbrake? 
Anyway, if you were deploying full speedbrakes during such delicate maneuvers I’d try adding just a few notch and see if that works better for you.
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A few weeks ago someone was asking why FBW didn’t release it in whatever state it was in, since it was free and someone from FBW said something like ‘trust me you would not like it in its current state” and now after a few weeks or a month FBW releases it and admits it is in Alpha and people are still complaining! I appreciate them releasing it and letting everyone test it and enjoy it. If you don’t want to be a tester, don’t download it. People are still enjoying it and knowing it will only get better is huge. Thank you FBW for providing this FREE aircraft in Alpha in a better state than some payware companies release ‘early access”.
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Just a few weeks ago, I said FBW needed to release it in its current state (like they did the A32N) and let us fly it. My suggest to FBW was get it released now because they weren’t going to prep it for MS2024 and most of us would be in MS2024 in 8 weeks. FBW released this bad boy A380 and I think it was the right decision. I’m having a blast flying it, regardless of the few crying about their experience. Most the top YouTuber bloggers are flying this aircraft fine from point A to point B on VATSIM. I’m not suggesting this ALPHA aircraft doesn’t have issue, but for what FBW put out there, this aircraft is GREAT! I’m having a great time flying it.
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I was one of those who asked.
And I couldn´t be happier that they listened.
I´m glad and thankful to the FBW team for letting me be a “free-alpha-tester” of their free aircraft. Because they LET me. They don´t FORCE me.
I´m the one who downloaded it. I know what it is and both accept and enjoy it. I´m sure with the community input they are getting now, developement will be faster. It´s just a joy to be able to play a (very, very small) part in that developement.
What I really can´t understand, is why people who don´t want it, and know it is not what they need, still download it, complain about it, and take the time to tell us why we should be angry as them… event to the point of calling the FBW team “unprofessional” for delivering it as is.
If it is not up to your standards, don´t fly it.
But please don´t imply it shouldn´t have been released, and we shouldn´t be enjoying it.
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Who is complaining deserves to buy products from Bedrock 3D.And keep silent.
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FBW spent several days announcing that it would be released in alpha state, with several missing features and with 25% lower performance than the FBW A320. If you didn’t read this or read it and still had high expectations for this aircraft, it’s not FBW’s fault.
If you don’t want to test the aircraft and give your feedback. Simple: Don’t do it. You didn’t spend any money, so you’re not losing anything if you don’t want to test it. FBW is not ruining the flight sim genre by releasing an aircraft in alpha. We’ve had this kind of conversation countless times, especially with each Captain Sim release.
Unlike many paid addon developers, FBW has told people exactly what to expect from the A380 days in advance, and since it’s a freeware aircraft, you won’t lose anything if it doesn’t live up to your expectations.
I don’t see the point in complaining about FBW releasing the aircraft in alpha. Many people are happy with the current state and flying it right now. If you don’t like it, don’t use it and wait until it’s good enough for you. It’s that simple.
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Good point. I’ll have to try to be more subtle next time. Are you seeing any issue descending on the last step down from say 7000 to 3000 say? I mean I’m seeing this issue without using speedbrakes. The speedbrakes are part of my attempt to intervene to increase the descent rate as the aircraft is slowing down too much in managed mode. So say from 7000 to 5000ft it slows to slats speed, so I deploy slats, then it slows further to the point I need to contemplate flaps 2 which is crazy 20 miles from landing, if I don’t deploy then it sits at that precarious stall speed and stays high instead of descending as it should. Why? The only correction is like I previously said switch to manual speed mode and dial airspeed up to 200kts to get away from the stall zone then use speedbrakes to increase descent rate.
Its either that or flip to V/S mode. Managed mode is not doing what it does on the A320 for example, the vnav path is not being followed at lower altitudes on approach. Instead the aircraft prioritises slowing down over descending.
Well… I can’t say for certain as I only landed it one time now.
However. That wing is designed for some serioussss lift (it’s beaaautiful too, had to say it). Meanwhile, it’s also massive and deploying slats in that thick air would likely produce some serious drag. My point being, can’t it just be design?
I use BATC with traffic (the contributor candy mode) and I honestly hardly ever approach/land aircraft in vnav modes as its just too “autonomous” that way. Flying in between traffic in busy sectors, I really manage speed from the control panel and usually in conjunction with open descent or v-speed when pre-intercepting glidepaths on final. It kinda feels more realistic to me too, owning that approach through tight interventions.
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I have certainly had more success when I jump in manually and control airspeed and descent rate just ahead of turning onto final. I just don’t have answers as to why I need to.
In contrast, the pmdg 777 is fine at VNAV in this phase, but always ends up a bit too fast so manually intervening to reduce airspeed ahead of turning onto final works well for it. This airbus is the opposite so need to manually intervene to make sure it descends enough or it will be above G/S but at a nice approach speed.
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I’ve read everything and I reread it again tonight. And still, not one single word about having people become testers, on the contrary, the presentation breathe a normal release even though alpha.
Usually when testers is needed, that is clearly announced, setting expectations correct and also producers normally don’t make ofiicial releases but keep the beta testers and their feedback by themselves and then make a proper release.
Again, does it matter if the producer tell their customers we’re releasing a useless product or if they pretend they’re releasing a good version and it’s still a useless product? FBW vs Aerosoft. Just deliver a working product please and stop messing around.
And again, focus on reliable releases and let the functionality depth be prio 2. By following such strategy, you’re building a trust among customers. Open source or not, it has nothing to do with it.
When you downloaded the aircraft this is what it says:
It’s clear that it’s an ‘open alpha’ and a ‘developer preview’.
So stop feigning shock and surprise that it’s not the finished work.
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Where did I question it’s an alpha?
Folks, remember to be respectful in your posts.
The Code of Conduct states:
- A Pilot is a Pilot - Treat everyone in the community with respect, and seek to have positive experiences with your fellow pilots.
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Thank you guys! great work!
FBW are a top class organization! The A380X is already a great plane as an Alpha and we can look forward to further improvements! Even their documentation is done very well. They set the bar high. Thank you, FBW!
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I’ve read everything and I reread it again tonight. And still, not one single word about having people become testers, on the contrary, the presentation breathe a normal release even though alpha.
Actually, it does because that is what open alpha means as opposed to closed alpha/beta which means only internal testing or testing by a selected small group.
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I have not used FS realistic for a long while, its just too many problems.
Has anyone gone to listen to the flaps sound while sat in the cabin opposite the wings. One of the best flap sounds I’ve heard yet.
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