Flying for several days

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Ok, it is just a sim, so I can end a flight, whenever I want. But I would like to stop a flight in a more “real world” manner. Said that, I want to land, e.g. on a tiny little airport, when I am getting tired, stay there until next day and continue, where I left the trip. Meanwhile, my PC is shut down.
I have seen the bush trips, which look pretty close to that. I have found an extra software, BushTrip Injector, which can somehow (did not try it yet) compile several preplanned legs into one trip. But, as I have learned from the built in bush trips, I have to stop at the end of each leg and can continue the next leg, whenever I want. But this will not work, when I decide to interrupt a flight outside of a flight plan. And, I would have to plan the legs in advance (which is always a good idea, but sumetimes no fun to follow).
When ending the flight in between and continue from the same airport next day using the standard world map procedure, the airplane is fuelled and placed in the default procedure. May be, this can be manipulated. I have no experience with the developer mode, neither with multiplayer mode.

And, moreover, when I still decide to continue the flight short time later, by starting at the World Map from my current airport, but without restarting FS, the real weather in gone. I get it only for the first flight started from World Map. This bug is known. There is a trick, to adjust the weather to blue sky and change to real weather after the flight started. However, this does not work for me. Real weather is gone, whenever I stop the first flight in the session.

So, how to stop a flight and continue it later at the same conditions (but at different, actual time, of course) as I left it?
Any ideas?

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I’ve been there since the beginning.

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You can’t. And I wish you could.

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I have exactly you same problem. For me, current saving option is totally useless.
I wish i could load the saved flight with real time and weather, as I had parked the aircraft in the airport for the night stop, and the day after take it to continue my journey.
Keeping the aircraft configuration as left on saved flight would perftact also.
I really hope Asobo will fix this thing shortly.

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I feel you here.
I hope for this feature since the beginning. Can’t understand why it’s not possible.
And also would like to see this “continue menu” when you stop the engine gone for ever.

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You can stsrt a flight with clear weather at a preset time (not real time), so can can change these things. Then you set the time to the current time and the weather to real weather. I did that yesterday, it took two or three minutes, covered me in snow at first but after 2 minutes it worked.

Then fly, when you‘re done you set the weather to clear and save the flight.

The next day you load this flight and do the same procedure again.

Yeah they need to fix that!

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Not sure, but have you tried editing the saved flightplan file? I’m currently using this method to fly ‘the next morning’ whilst doing a very long VFR around the world. I’ve not noticed the live weather being an issue - I’ve been looking at ‘Windy’ and it seemed ok, but I will look again after my next ‘night’s stop’.

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Can’t you just load in live weather and time and the same spot you parked at?

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Whatever I change at the beginning of a second flight in the weather menu, when I change to live weather, I get a blue sky. And blue sky is almost never the case in my area. So, I am pretty sure, that this is fake. Well, ok, we had a thunderstorm a few hours ago, and now actually the sky looks like painted in blue from FS2020. But this is a very rare coincidence. I think, that there is a bug, which prevents gaining the actual date&time from the servers, and instead of popping up an error, clear sky is conjured up instead.

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LittleNavMap, free for download software, will track your flights, and will keep them in memory until you clear the map. There’s a limit to this, but it will do for what you need.
Besides, its nav log is a lot better than the sim’s integrated one.
So next time you start your sim, just check in LittleNavMap your last ramp and set in the flight plan view.
Mission accomplished.

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I use LittleNavMAp (LNM) as Copilot/Navigator on a second screen. There I can easily compare wind direction and force, when cruising through strong wind areas. I like that. However, as far as my experience goes, LNM activates only one start and one stop procedure per plan. So, when I decide to have some extra stops, and will continue lateron, I can, up to date, only introduce these extra airports as waypoints and proceed in landing there without the aid of LNM. Thus, when stopping at that point, I do not know, how to save the parking position, fuelling, and everthing else of the plane. When I shut down the PC, in my experience, only the flight plan is saved. I can export the lnmpln file to a FS2020 pln file. Opening this file in the sim, I will see the same procedure as if I started the flight from the sim directly. Nevertheless, when I do not shut down the sim, the real weather is gone. So in my hands LNM is just excellent for planning flights and track the routes. But to my experience it is not suited to manage interrupted flights. But maybe I missed something, you know better than I do.

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If it’s the second flight with no live weather issue, the popular or perhaps only workaround is to start your second flight with Clear Skies set. then after spawing switch to live. After 5-10 seconds you should see the sky change, as well as the atmospheric pressure when you tap the B key, or communicate with ATIS/ATC.

I had one flight in Idaho a few weeks back where I had started that second flight, and the weather changed twice. Ground was green, and sky was clear, then for 2 seconds or so the ground was covered in snow, then a few seconds later the real live weather came in, and the ground was green again, and the sky overcast. :slight_smile:

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Well, I tried to confirm it. But, no:
Opening World Map, choose an airport next to where I am, so I can confirm live weather. It is rainy and partially clouded.
Opening the weather options with preset in the upper right menu to blue sky. Choose “live” for date/time.
In the lower left column “Standard” is marked.
Starting the flight. Blue Sky.
Opening the ribbon menu weather option.
Change blue sky to live weather.
Wait…
After 5 Minutes still blue sky.

Restart the sim completely, and after choosing live weather is raining with little hail. That’s live. There I can switch to blue sky and back to live weather as expected. I can hit ESC and restart and live weather is still there. But whe returning to the main menu, I get blue sky again, no live weather.

I am afraid, this trick does not work for me at all.

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Wrong. :stuck_out_tongue: To make it work you need to start EVERY flight (even the first one) with clear skies and then change it to live weather. If you apply this workaround only to the second flight it won’t work.

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I fly with live weather almost all the time, and not had that trick fail on me for the second flight. The only time I change it on the map screen is if it’s a group flight, and a specific weather was recommended.

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OK!
When the preset is generally set to “clear sky”, then at least it looks like working for the moment! It is somewhat strange, but at least as a workaround much better than restarting the sim completely.
Thanks!

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I don’t believe FS saving options are opti by any means. That’s the reason why I suggested you refer to your aircraft last position in LNM when you start the sim again. From there, select your start airport and your gate.
LNM does show gates and ramps, so you only need to make a new flight at your last airport and your last position, without the need to save and load data within FS. Even if you didn’t enter a flight plan in LNM, it will still work.
Yes you’re right, LNM is made for one start and one end, but if you want to, like, save an entire bush trip, I find your solution elegant, and you can still have airport data and your flight history.

And if you’re flying IFR, right-click on any airport will still give options to see procedures, with or without filing a flightplan in LNM :slight_smile:

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Just to be clear, when I make a new flight at my last airport, I have to enter this as my starting point, add the destination as I decided previously again, then save this as a new plan and export it to a pln file, which can be used in the sim. Right? I can chain these legs into as much trips as I want, without preparing a bush trip, e.g. from the LNM files in BushTripInjector.

Up to date, when I opened a pln file in FS2020, live weather was gone and could not be restored. So this was not a solution. I will give it a try with the workaround described here already.

IFR is currently only another TLA :pensive: . I need to learn more about everything beyond my HOTAS. That will be a separate thread.

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Well that’s a way to do things indeed: create a flightplan in LNM, export and load, yes.
In that regard, you can’t save an entire bush trip, and need one departure and one destination actually correponding to the flight you’re going to do.

I personnaly don’t use that option, at least for general aviation… and quite often too in airliners for 6+ hours flight too: LNM (and Navigraph) is only for informational purposes (and always active upon launching FS, because LNM nav log is so much better than FS’s). I usually start FS using only airport and ramp departure from FS, and set my flightplan within the garmin/fmc system.
That option gives you the possibility to set a multi landing bush trip in LNM as you described earlier, which I think is clever.

And obviously, there’s always the possibility to create the entire flightplan from the FS map menu, including altitude, sid, star and fuel if necessary if you wish to use that option for each hop.

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When I do not use a LNM created pln file, but start with a flight from FS world map, I currently only know two options: When I choose just an airport to start from, I get kind of “rent a plane” service. That is a plane waiting at the runway, partially fuelled and everything checked ok. When I choose to start from a parking position on the airport, all of the service is omitted. I have to start from a black glass cockpit. That is ok, but it is still different from, when I want to start from the same place with the same amount of fuel and the same routing plan as I left the plane the day before. At least, when I use the pln files, connected one stop to the next start, I could continue from the same position, where I had left the plane before. But in general, when starting a flight the same way as you do, that is, just put the start on the airport of desire in FS world map, and take LNM only as kind of navigation officer, I will have to recreate all items, as I had left the plane the day before, manually. Well, I did not yet get in contact with sid, star, fmc. Maybe I should.

BTW, the garmin systems are something, I already know, that I need much more experience. I preferred the X-Cub because it is slow, good for sightseeing, and it has kind of a touchscreen garmin (is this so in reality?). That is, I can operate the glass cockpit with the mouse. This works rather reliable, so I can manipulate my current flight plan on air. The other planes, I like to fly with, have garmin with those little buttons and knobs, which are hard to handle. And I am not sure, that all of them operate correctly. Sometimes I get a big mess and do not know, how to cure. At least, I need a working autopilot, because I need a lot of concentration and time to succeed. Therefore, besides X-Cub I currently do prefer BE36 or DA40, because of the reliability of the garmin operations, with the mouse in my hands.
But this still does not solve the problem, how to wake up next morning and go to the plane, which should be, where I had left it last evening, somewhere in the bushes, having enough fuel to reach the next greater airport.