Good idea! It works, I put my camera just outside the windscreen, and then I am free to move everywhere, I finally positioned the camera before the propeller, so I have a wonderful view of the outside, and I can swap to the cabin interior just pressing alt-0 and other saved positions and vice-versa.
Now a hud would be useful, waiting for some way to use my avionics monitor for the gauges…!
Thanks for your suggestion!
Private video?
There is an easier, less destructive way …
Yep i did delete that video. Here is new video with link to easier solution https://youtu.be/jPINMuSuLms
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This is my workaround
It seems to be working and running on two computers
Despite the graphical performance it due to my 2x 780 ti cards.
#Multiple screens functionality
Or try this one
FS 2020 cockpit building
I made issue entry - vote up please.
Hello,
I read the bug report you created. I don’t want to speak for everybody, but I don’t think most people want a camera in the nose of the aircraft. I think people are looking for the same pilot’s-eye view that they have now, but without the instrument panel, or in some cases, the entire cockpit, itself.
The link in the post above yours covers at least the instrument panel variation of that.
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Forward without cockpit as in X-Plane 11.
Go to the aircraft file.
Open the model folder.
Open model.cfg with Notepad++ or similar.
Place “a;” (without quotes) in front of both the interior and exterior model lines.
You will have ONLY scenery from the pilots seat/view.
Even in exterior view you will NOT see the plane.
If you only put the “a;” in front of the interior line, you will get parts of the exterior that look washed out or semi-transparent. Someone can probably figure out how to remove these with a graphics program. I’m not that guy.
If some figures it out, please let us know. I would like to see the cowl, prop and wings just no cockpit.
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Also, even with these two lines edited, Air Manager 4.0 works fine.
And TrackIR
You don’t need the “a” just the “;” character.
This sounds good and I would like to use it, however, I prefer to not modify the core simulator files. Do you think there’s a way to either (i) make a copy of the file in the config directory (e.g. under SimObjects where camera files are saved), or (preferred) (ii) develop it into a mod for the Community folder? This would be great!
Completely understand. Hopefully a techy type will read this thread and figure out a way to put it in a mod.
I made a copy of the entire aircraft folder (C172) while I’m testing, just to be safe.
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I GOT IT TO WORK!
Thank you Ducky!
I just tried it and can confirm, if you go into the model.cfg file for the aircraft you want, and put a ; before both the cockpit and exterior model.
Find the model.cfg file (in my case for the Pitt’s Special) here:
C:\Users\********\AppData\Local\Packages\Microsoft.FlightSimulator_*************\LocalCache\Packages\Official\OneStore\asobo-aircraft-pitts\SimObjects\Airplanes\Asobo_Pitts\model\model.cfg
In that file make both of these changes. Just commenting out the interior still leaves all the exterior pieces visibility, but with transparent interior pieces.
[models]
; exterior=Pitts.xml
; interior=Pitts_Interior.xml
Save it, launch, select the plane (you’ll notice the thumbnail for it is gone) and it indeed flies with no models for a wide open view! It’s pretty breathtaking on my 42" HDR TV I use for a monitor.
I did get a crash after finishing a flight, but started right back up with no issue.
A possible option for non destructive of the original files is to copy one of the livery folders and go into the configuration file, but I’d have to play with it to find all the correct settings for a new livery.
Here’s a quick video of it in action (sorry, no screencast, just filmed with my DSLR on my screen.)
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So far, with my home cockpit, it is working really well. One unfortunate downside is that without an exterior model there are no landing or taxi lights. If you display the exterior at night, the semi-transparent parts aren’t quite so noticeable and you have lights.
Some things I would like to see:
- A Modded file outside of core package (for core aircraft).
- A way to keep the exterior model but remove the transparent parts. (probably can not be done because these parts may be hard coded in model file)
PlaneMaker is one of the best things about X-Plane 11. The ability to remove parts of the interior and exterior is AWESOME for home cockpit builders.
It’s just something we’ll have to work with (along with multi monitor support) until Asobo addresses these issues.
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But then how do you see the cockpit when you want to? Is there a way to toggle between these two (visible cockpit/invisible cockpit)? If not, I don’t see it being a solution to anything.
- You don’t.
- There isn’t (unless you change the model file and reload the aircraft in developers mode).
It’s really only useful for cockpit builders who ONLY need to see scenery. Their cockpits (additional monitors for programs like Air Manager, Arduino boards that interface with MSFS for wiring real knobs and switches and displaying radio frequencies on 7 sgment displays or LCD screens etc…, etc…) have all the necessary gauges, radios, GPS so that you don’t have to see the virtual cockpit.
The whole purpose of having a “home built cockpit” is not having to look at a fake one on the computer monitor.
PLUS it saves CPU and GPU processing power by not having to draw the interior or exterior parts of the plane.
- So YES, it is a “solution” for those of us cockpit builders that want to simulate, as close a possible, the real aircraft environment. Not using a mouse and keyboard to push and turn fake buttons and nobs in a virtual cockpit.
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It is not an ideal solution (ie a toggle in the game itself) but it is a solution in so far as you can fly without the cockpit, go back to the menu, edit the file to remove the comment markers, and fly again and the cockpit is back. For what I want (to do a flight sometimes with no cockpit) it’s the best option so far, until Asobo adds this (what I think should be) incredibly simple feature.
Well said.
I’ll give the menu/edit option a try. Edit/reload the plane in Dev mode was a pain. Thanks.
Yes. A simple “Forward With No Cockpit” option with assignable keystroke, a program and ability to edit core aircraft and multi monitor suppot.
I don’t think I’m asking for too much???
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