@hobanagerik I’ve been looking a bit at this too - I think I might get a 3090 Hybrid.
The EVGA 3090 Hybrid has an onboard fan but also includes an All-in-one water cooler in a 120mm fan.
I think the design of my case, when I get it. (It was due today ) - All in one 3 fan CPU on the front, sucking air in and GPU fan pulling cool air in from the back, with pull-in fan on the bottom and a couple of output blowers on the top of the case.
Edit: Apparently the action that a vacuum creates is a censored word.
If so, I believe GPU’s aren’t getting close enough to hitting the performance ceiling on PCIE 3.0 yet - or at least, You be bottle-necking the card using a RTX 30 series on an Intel board without PCIE 4.0, from what I’ve read.
I see that the 3000 series card is being sold for $700 on their website. But since when has the pinnacle GPU been that cheap? I expect as it has been in the past, once it comes out, the supply will be bought up, then resold for at least twice the retail value. Just like the 2080ti being sold for $2000. It is NEVER worth that. Neither will the 3000 series be worth it, either. If every person buying one pays that outrageous amount, it fuels the stupidity of a market that supply and demand can’t support.
? Right after that statement in the Linus video he shows the same thing happens with the 2080ti FE to a higher degree.
Which makes sense, its not like the air on a dual or triple fan card isnt being blown into a case that usually is designed to go up and back, across the ram and cpu.
I think the design of the FE cards is great, but I would rather a more efficient cooler over the looks. I’m not that big into water cooling, but do have a nice 3 fan AIO on my 9900K. I’d be happy to go AIO on my GPU, if any vendor did it, but I’m not going to risk breaking a 3090, and do it myself.
@hobanagerik My 1080, 980Ti, 750ti have all been Gigabyte’s but I think my 250 before that was an EVGA. I’m indifferent - I’ll usually go with the same brand for a while but the Gigabyte lineup this year is a bit underwhelming. Too much LED nonsense that I don’t care for and I don’t want to be reliant on noisy fans.*
*The Astek pump could potentially be noisier than 3 fans, but I’m hoping the water-loop will negate the fans spinning like fiends.
The Corsair 2 fan AIO I have on my 9900K is very quiet. I never hear it even when MSFS has been running for hours, but that might be because my 1080’s fans are breathing like a race horse. I’ve never heard any other sim/game do this to my GPU. It seems to run at a high, constant rate, then occasionally ramps up massively in speed for a second or two, then down again.
When I first noticed this, I legitimately thought it was the wind being sucked through the crack of a window near my desk. It was days before I realised it was actually coming from the case beneath that window!
My current case is a Corsair 200R. It’s a good case, except it’s too ventilated and the H80i I’ve got on my CPU is a horrible, noisey thing. The thing that actually spurred me to rebuild my machine was the whole computer being so loud.
I’ve kind of gone overkill because I’m getting a case I’m going to basically be trying to run in ‘low noise mode’ - and low-noise mode basically means it’s probably not going to be very well ventilated. I’ve got for a 360mm radiator for the CPU and looking at the EVGA Hybrid 3090 for the GPU. I checked the documentation for my case (Fractal Design Define 7) thoroughly, time and time again. I have to sacrifice an Optical drive inside my machine, but I rarely ever use them anyway. (Bought a USB external)
Back on to the topic of GPU’s, My GTX1080 gets pretty noisy… in fact once the Fan RPM hits about 99% - It starts to rattle (bearing rattle, I think) so I know what you mean about MSFS really pushing the GPU. It didn’t even get that heavily loaded when I was doing 4K Rendering benchmarks.
if you have a 2080Ti, the 3080 won’t make that much of a difference though (around 20-30% on non-RTX games). You’d most likely be ‘main thread limited’ in FS anyways. Might be worth it on 4K, but for lower, I don’t think it’s that much of an upgrade.
It’s 25 to 30% better, in almost all aspects, from an RTX 2080 Ti, why wouldn’t I buy it? Even RT and DLSS is improved. Plus, I love gaming in 1440p or 4k.