Gran Caravan 208 ILS approach

Hi,
When performing an ILS approach with the Gran Caravan 208 (Garmin G1000). It won’t pick-up the glide slope. Every parameters seem in order (active loc frequency, approach on…etc) but it does not pick-up the glide slope and I have to turn off the AP in order to land the plane. It only picks up the LOC frequency accurately (green arrow)
I use the same procedures, flight plan and airport with the Cessna Skyhawk G1000 and never have a similar problem.

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Thanks for the precisions. I will try to precise my question(s) next time around!

This is not a Technical Support Response

Try an ILS approach at a different airport to confirm functionality.

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I did
Same result most of the time
It once worked but it has been a while.
That is the reason I switched plane to see if the problem would still exist. But the ILS worked OK when using the Cessna Skyhawk.

I place the plane at the right altitude, speed, etc when I cross the IAF.
LOC is in function and works OK , but I can not even see the GS initials (in white but waiting to be picked up and turn to green) on my screen.

So far I deleted my cachefile.ccc folder but I did not have a chance to try since then. Would it be a good move to bypass my problem by downloading and start using Garmin 1000 NXI ?
Thanks for the reply

There might be a conflict with something in your Community Folder. I would temporarily rename Community Folder to something like Community Folder_ and restart the sim.

Would it be a good move to bypass my problem by downloading and start using Garmin 1000 NXI ?

This part is confusing. Unless you are using some other version of the G1000 (and you shouldn’t be), the latest G1000 NXi is already built into the sim as part of the core code.

In the screenshot below, the entry circled in Red is ALWAYS installed.

The one with the Red X next to it - you do NOT need that unless you bought / used a Third Party Plane (i.e., not MS-Asobo brand) that still is pointing to the old outdated G1000 code. To my knowledge there are no planes out there that need this. In any case, you are flying the MS-Asobo Caravan which automatically uses the one circled in Red.

Note the Installed / Non Installed statuses next to each.

If your content manager doesn’t look like this, that might be part of the problem.

I will rename the community folder as you suggest it. As I understand it I do not have to move the folder elsewhere when the modification (rename) has been done.
The image above is what I got when I made a research in my content manager under the name Garmin G.
So far, I did not add any third party application in my FS2020. Bought it about a year ago and all the required updates have been made.

If you have any other input to suggest you are welcome. I will let you know the results as soon as I can
Thanks

Search for NXi - I think you’ll get the same results I did.


Tried another airport (KACY rwy 13 ILS)
Glideslope was coming down but was never picked up.
Community file had been renamed (but not moved).

Will look for NXi
Thanks again
Stephane

Two issues with this screenshot I noted.

You’re in ROL, you should be in FMS/GPS to guide on the Localizer. Note you’re slightly left of localizer guidance.

APR is NOT on. There’s no GS annunciator to the right of the scoreboard. So you will pass through the GS (as noted by the descending Green diamond) but the aircraft will never pick it up automatically.

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I’m guessing you switched from GPS to Nav 1 with the CDI button. When you do this, the autopilot will just revert back to Roll mode, and not automatically pick up the ILS. From where you are in that pic, you should be able to hit the APR button and have the plane make a slight right turn to pick up the localizer fairly quick. The ALT indicator on the scoreboard will stay, and a white GS indicator will pop up telling you that it’s standing by to intercept the glideslope. You’re actually in a good spot as far as flying, although I might be going a little faster at that point.

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Hi guys,
I appreciate all the input. I always use the APR switch (upper part of the center screen) to turn it on. The only thing I noticed is the fact that I have to hit it twice in order to see that it has been turned on. Am I to quick and maybe I should give it a few seconds more to turn itself on before hitting it a second time? Maybe the secon click turns it off while I quit the center screen to go back to the other one…I noticed too that the GS annunciator (white and green) never shows up on the scoreboard.

I will try again and check carefully the process.
And I will come in a little bit faster than 80 knts at that point!

Just check your Community Folder is really empty of any potential Mods (like the old G1000 Mod from long ago).

Earlier, I renamed my Community folder on a previuos attempt to solve the problem.
I renamed it but it was empty.
After my last flight, a new Community folder was created. Both the latest one and the one that was renamed are empty.


Garmin 1000
Top image represent the Gran Caravan 208 screens with the missing GS once passed the IAF although the Approach mode has been turned on
Bottom image represent the Cessna Skyhawk at the same point while performing the exact same flight (origin and destination) and procedures. GS mode is active and working

Seriously thinking about getting the NXi

The 1000NXi is the default that you normally can’t change and it certainly appears you already have the NXi.
I’ll just throw some screenshots up and some narrative to make sure we’re on the same page as to what’s showing up at various points of the approach.
First, this is an ILS 30L at KSTL using MOODS as the IAP.
First screen, you can see it approaching MOODS. I’ve activated the approach in the MFD and it’s tracking the flight route for that approach:

As soon as I make the turn at MOODS to follow the approach track, I press the “APR” button. Note it’s illuminated, and the LOC and GS show white indicating they’re both armed and ready to intercept the signals when received. Note that the GS has not even begun to start showing up at the top of the small box next to the altitude indicator that appears once the system detects a strong enough signal. Are you seeing the LOC and GS showing in white when you hit the APR button as you go past the IAP? This is IMO the important point in making sure it flies the ILS correctly. If you’re not getting both LOC and GS in white when you hit the APR button, then there’s something interfering with your sim’s response to the APR button in this scenario.

In the last screenshot, both the LOC and GS have now turned green and are locked onto the signals and ready to fly down the ILS path.

Hope this helps identify what’s not working at the various points of the approach.
Regards

That’s normal. The Community folder is a required element, even if it’s empty, so if you rename it or move it to the desktop, the sim will build another one on the next launch.

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Hello,

First of all, thanks for your reply. I appreciate it very much.

I posted an image of the result of my search in my content manager under the word Garmin.

Honestly I do not know if I am operating under Garmin1000 NXi or not. Is there a way to confirm it? Is there a problem if I install it again supposing I am working with it already?

Your scenario is the exact same scenario that I am experiencing when I fly the Cessna Skyhawk G1000. No problem whatsoever.

My problem comes in when I fly the Gran Caravan 208. I can’t get any connection with the glideslope. Does not intercept it. The GS does not appear on the screen (neither white or green). Although I am flying the exact same course and procedures as the one I flew with the Cessna Skyhawk.

So as you say: If you’re not getting both LOC and GS in white when you hit the APR button, then there’s something interfering with your sim’s response to the APR button in this scenario.

I will try a different airport and route as soon as I can to see if my problem is still there.

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That is what I suspected. Thanks again for your input.

First, make sure there’s nothing in your Community folder from Working Title (I think that’s already covered). Then, go into your Content Manager and search for working (not all packages have the full Garmin name in them). Make sure that everything that’s available is installed, with the possible exception of the SR-22 packs, which you won’t need if you don’t have that plane. Last, if you have a stout rig, there is an optional TBM-930 “Enhanced” package in the Marketplace that enables different information on each of the two G3000 PFD’s, but can be hard on low-end systems. Granted, that last one has nothing to do with your issue, but it’s a nice package to have if you like the 930.