Help pls. Elevator trim odd behaviour, C172 Xbox with controller

When I fly the Cessna 172 G1000, on Xbox and use the joypad rather than my Hotas, the trimming wheel seems to exhibit odd behaviour.

I try not to pause the game when flying in order to use in cockpit controls as it loses the immersion a little. So I click the left controller so I can view around the cockpit (quite a chance by now the plane is choosing its own precarious trajectory) and click on the trim wheel. As soon as I try to adjust a few degrees, the trim wheel will shoot to a massive positive position causing the plane to pitch up to the extreme, followed by a stall/dive. When in that state you can’t even control the plane as you are interacting with the trim wheel.

Other than selecting autopilot attitude/alt hold am I doing something wrong?

With the Hotas stick/throttle I tend to quickly use the mouse, from memory I don’t think it behaves like this?

If you don’t get a response to this issue (I assume you still have this problem?) then I’ll try it tomorrow and let you know what I find. I too am on Xbox and play with an Xbox controller.

Hi,
Thanks for offering to take a look.

I tried again today, had the 172 in reasonably stable state then changed the view using the stick down to look at the trim wheel. As soon as I clicked it it changed from around 0 - 3° to about 28°, sending the plane in an abrupt climb/stall.

No idea why it suddenly changes to max of it’s range.

I have a “fix” which was I read the Xbox controller commands within the game and saw you can change the trim wheel state with the shoulder right button held + up or down on the right joystick (which I assume everyone but me knew!)

This adjusts the trim in slow proportionate steps, which is kind of what you want. Happy now.

In fact I’m finding the joypad more versatile than joystick and throttle which I wasn’t expecting, especially given the hotas joystick’s “binary” view changes rather the smooth view control of the Xbox controller.

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Further to above, it would still be worth anyone else replicating what I have done to ascertain if it is indeed a bug or intended behaviour

The process by which you describe is the only way I have ever trimmed all aircraft. As a ‘TV living room sitting on the opposite side of the room’ flyer I didn’t want cables across the floor hence the Xbox controller suits me perfectly. Using the Bumper and trim up and down moves in small steps. In case you didn’t know, if you hold it instead of clicking it it goes up or down much quicker.
I can understand you might feel this detracts from a more real life interaction with the trimming compared with clicking on the trim function in the cockpit itself.

I’ll still test it out and report back though if I experience the same issue.

So I just tried this. Apart from the Xbox freezing and needing a restart which was odd I was able to trim the aircraft but up and down from the cockpit trim control in steps of 0.1 without issue. You’ll notice in external view it only shows whole numbers I.e. 1.0, 2.0 etc.

I should add I used the controller to highlight and then click on the trim adjustment (left thumbstick click action) as opposed to trying an external mouse. I imagine it wouldn’t behave any differently however.

Hope that helps in some way.

Center the trim wheel before take off.
It seems to remember the last setting used in previous flight.
Center trim to 0 degrees then once airborne adjust as required.
Works for me on controller or on velocity one but with V1 you have to Center in the calibration menu.

I hope that’s of some use

Cheers for the posts above. I’ve had a hit and miss set of results to replicating what I posted. Now I know the joypad control for slow adjustments I’m not too bothered but I wonder what you think of the behaviour in the attached video clip. I couldn’t get it to do this every time, unsure whether it’s me or an intermittent bug. I have a video but limited by the 5mb upload limit (it’s 28mb and I’ve shaved a fair few frames off

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