This is the best advice imo. Once I locked my G2 to 45 fps (half refresh), my experience improved so much. It’s all about consistency. Sure, 60+ fps is great …but when that 60 fps suddenly drops by 10-15…it’s jarring. Much more so in VR that on a monitor.
I would absolutely take a lower, consistent framerate, over a fluctuating slightly higher one.
For reference, I’m running a 3080 with a 5800x3d and a Reverb G2. With my settings I’m able to maintain 45 fps in almost all circumstances (especially now in SU15). It’s a very enjoyable experience.
vsync is not directly applicable in VR, but you can use headset software or external tools to limit the FPS to the headset refresh rate divisions with natural numbers (for 90Hz you can limit to 90 FPS, 45 FPS, 30 FPS) for more consistent frame timing. How low you go depends on your H/W and settings (affecting the image clarity).
In case it’s useful, I’m using an i7-10700k, 32GB RAM, RTX 4090 and Quest 2.
I run most settings on ultra, TLOD and OLOD both at 100. I use DX12, DLSS Quality, ultra setting in virtual desktop, and OpenXR Toolkit override set to 4250 resolution.
My headset is running 80Hz mode and I can maintain 40fps in most situations I fly. Very smooth experience with motion reprojection enabled.
I may upgrade my CPU in future, however, I am waiting to see if MSFS 2024 brings any general multi core CPU improvements. For the time being I am happy.
I’m pretty sure I don’t have the money to do a full pc upgrade and buy a VR headset. The price gap between a 4070 Ti S and a 4080 S isn’t that high than a new MB and CPU (and possibly RAM aswell). If a CPU upgrade is necessary to venture into enjoyable quality VR then I possibly won’t do it in the next few years.
As for the HMD I’m sure there are tons of topic dissecting every available choice, but I really wouldn’t want to go lower res than a Reverb G2 V2.
That’s more powerful in every aspect than my setup would be with the 4080 S, however based on what you write it doesn’t seem impossible to get the magic 30fps on my 9600kf with a GPU upgrade.
Your Windows license can be tied to your motherboard (and other components) if you got it as an OEM license. Pretty common for off-the-shelf PCs, or some system builds (because it’s cheaper that way for the system builder). But if this is a self-build, or a system builder build with a retail Windows license, then it should just re-assign itself to the new hardware and disable the older hardware registration. It’s all pretty much seamless in Win10/11 these days.
There’s a bit of a plague of resellers selling ‘cheap’ Windows keys that - while technically genuine - are not supposed to be sold at retail and are for OEM use only or are Volume License keys issued to organisations for internal use only, and those can cause exactly this problem. They can even stop working altogether if Microsoft finds out that the keys are being misused. Not uncommon for an entire VL set to be cancelled if some have leaked.
I had an OEM license with my previous setup, which of course became obsolete when I upgraded into my current one. So my current license is from the Microsoft store, bought it online from their website and was about 100EUR. I’m not sure if its free to be moved onto a new machine or not
My Quest 2 says in the settings that FPS often works well at half refresh. I had it set to 90 before but I wasn’t regularly getting 45 FPS. When I set it to 72, my system sticks to around 36 most of the time and it appears quite smooth to me. No clue why that is, but it does jive with what you found.
I’ve never had trouble moving a Windows license to another machine. Several times I’ve had to call them and explain the situation, but it wasn’t difficult or time consuming. If I recall it’s usually an automated feature. Unless there’s something special about your version then it’s possible. But my understanding is that OEM is just the OS without the retail box. There should not be difference in transferring those. I’ve always used copies from the MS employee store (relative worked there for 20 yrs) which were Retail or I’ve got OEM from Newegg.
I used to play around with my computers a lot changing stuff out and I often had to call MS as I’d changed the key enough times but they never gave me any hassle.
If you are on a budget, your best option will be probably Quest 3. G2 is not worth the investment anymore, as Microsoft announced the end of support of WMR on which G2 relies in the next major windows 11 update (September/October 2024).
I can follow that by saying I LOVE my Quest 2 and I plan to get the 3 at some point. I’ll research a bit of course as I don’t really know what else is out there, but I will be on a budget.
I don’t want to turn this topic into a which HMD to get topic, pretty sure there us at least one of those already, but to answer: there are used G2-s for sale pretty cheap and they have quite good reputation, so I think they are a good trial run for msfs vr.
I could get a used pico 4 or a quest 2 for about the same money, but I find the G2 more alluring with its display port connectivity. If VR turns out to be not my thing, I can just sell it over and not loose much money. But if I buy a new unit then sell it in a few months that’s quite a loss.
Since the G2 is going to stop working eventually, I think it might be hard to get much for it unless you manage to offload it to someone who’s unaware.
To continue using G2 on Windows 11 past September/October you will need to block Windows major update 2024H2. This update will remove WMR (required for G2 to work) from Windows 11. You can probably continue running Windows 11 without this update, but this will require some preventive actions to block the update.
You will be rather unable to sell the G2.
There is a separate thread on this subforum discussing the WMR planned removal.
AFAIK as no feature upgrades are planned to Windows 10, WMR will probably stay with Windows 10.
However, I would not count on good price when reselling G2, if it will be generally perceived as no more supported on Windows 11.
