I’d Love to See Asobo Release the DA50 RG

The Cessnas are probably the best default GA in terms of flight model, which is kind of boring considering the range of GA aircraft in the sim (plus I’m a low-wing av geek). If Asobo wanted to step up it’s aircraft and flight model game, it would quit worrying about fighter jets (which is just a play to the Xbox’ers anyway) and spend significant resources on developing a solid DA50 RG with a fantastic flight model and textures. Asobo could release it as a paid expansion along with some premium sceneries. I say Asobo and not a 3rd-party dev because I assume Diamond gave Asobo exclusive rights. So, any other dev trying to develop a Diamond would run into some legal issues. I could be wrong, however, so please correct me if I am mistaken.

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Your wrong Im not an Xbox geek and I love to fly fighters…Bwhahahah!

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For what reason should Diamond give exclusive rights to Asobo? Rather to A2A or Milviz. Anyway, I think they don’t give exclusive rights at all.

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It’s not even in production yet, only two prototypes out there.

EDIT: Ah, I was looking at a DA50. I honestly had no idea what a DA50 RG was so I Googled it. Pretty nifty aircraft. The cowling looks somewhat like that found on some Cessna 210s.

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I really don’t get all that “jet fighters are for XBox players” or “if you want to fly a military plane, go to DCS”. An aircraft is an aircraft no matter if it’s a sailplane, a gyrocopter, a C172, P-51, B737 or F-16. I find them all interesting in MSFS.

That said: I would love to see a DA50RG in MSFS. For me that plane could become the natural successor to the Mooney M20: fast, sleek, sporty, a little unconventional, economical and immensely desireable.

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I’d love to have unarmed fighters in MSFS for many reasons.

  • It’s realistic single pilot operation. Flying any airliner in a sim as a single pilot isn’t.
  • The superior performance. Climbing vertically out of an alpine valley at 400kts is breathtaking.
  • Many fighters are a challenge to land, especially in a crosswind.
  • You can get everywhere faster than in most other aircraft.

You can’t even remotely compare the extremely limited and awful looking DCS terrain, with MSFS.

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You have some already. I don’t understand the “I’d love part”…

I should have included, high quality. Apart from the Gina (at least according to the descriptions and screenshots) I don’t know any other.

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Gina, the IndiaFoxtEcho stuff (Aeromacchi, Boeing), DC Designs F-15. All these are worth flying, I think.

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IndiaFoxEcho doesn’t have any fighters AFAIK and the F-15, especially the VC isn’t high quality IMO.

I believe that the upcoming F/A-18E will be very nice.

IFT has the Aeromacchi 339 and the Goshawk and the VC of the F-15 has been worked on a lot since release. In my opinion, it’s pretty nice now.

(Those are trainers, not fighters. Whether that makes a difference is up to the eye of the beholder! :smiley: I enjoy both of them and also the F-15, but spend most of my time flying slower GA planes.)

The MB339 has a lower climb rate than e.g. an A320 at low weight and the top speed at FL300 is lower than an A320s cruising speed, not exactly high performance :wink:
(The T-45 isn’t significantly better)

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Yeah well, IMHO flying a fighter at FL300 is pretty pointless and boring. And near the ground even subsonic speeds appear fast. Also try grinding the A320 through the Mach Loop at 300 kts. Probably wont be much fun. When it comes to maneouverability even the lowly MB339 has them beat. In any case the Hawk (on which the T-45 is based) and the MB339 are both also used by many Air Forces in ground attack support roles like the Gina. The Gina also was never meant to be a fighter in her day.

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I mentioned the Gina because it’s the only higher quality military jet I’m aware of.
A totally useless comparison of what do and where with an airliner vs a fighter.

Since it takes a high performance fighter ~1min to climb to to FL300, you are not spending a lot of time up there anyway.

Man…. :joy:

Everyone has his preferences.. Diamond.. sure, why not… I’m not aware of any bad airplane with that logo on it… But from Asobo? That would be a waste, bought via the marketplace it wouldn’t even be moddable.

Personal Observation: Based on Jorg’s comments in past Dev Q&As, it’s mostly a matter of licensing and what specific products the manufacturer is comfortable having portrayed. The same situation applies to official Liveries (as offered through MS-Asobo and Market Place).

New products would require renegotiation or amendment if the master and SOWs are robust enough. And then Asobo needs to assign a resource to build it. Given everything on their plate, and the in-house offerings post-launch are relatively low-effort (Ultralight), it’s a good wager they’d have to pair up with an existing 1st Party like Aerosoft to make it.

Personally, I’d rather see the effort expended to address the luke-warm Premium and Deluxe aircraft. Fix what you have first.

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Unarmed fighter jets is an interesting idea indeed. I guess 99% of all people who fly DCS only fly for the combat and dog-fights - but I fly DCS for the sake of flying, for the realistic cockpit the fantastic flight physics and the technology and avionics in jets. (and for later 3D VR flying, both Flight Sim 20 and DCS offer VR-flying that´s why I use both simulators and that`s why I have learned to fly F-14 F-16 and F-18… to have my casual Cessna slow and romantic sightseeing flights sometimes a little bit more spiced up with some more intense machines on Mach2…)

The Diamond Aircraft DA50 looks like a single-engine version of the DA-62 - but I would prefer it as a real triple-A addon payware DLC made for example by A2A Accu-Sim.
A2A making this beautyful bird will be a good choice because that would also add some hangar functions and extreme realistic system depth and maintenance options.
Carenado would be a good choice too for the DA50 as a DLC plane because this third-party-addon-team has also proven pure quality since a decade :wink:

For the old FSX/prepar3D era two third party developers AAA DA-62 were available.
Aerosoft and VertX. And maybe both dev teams will think about developing a DA50 for the Flight Sim 20 sooner or later:

I believe the Vertx DA62 has been abandoned sadly, it was never brought to P3Dv5 and I haven’t heard a word of it’s development in a very long time. If you know otherwise please let me know. I don’t even know if Vertx is still around. Website is still there but again haven’t heard a peep from them in a long time.